And isn't it ironic... don't you think

Being gay and supporting Barack as president. This song came to mind. And what I feel about this is very sad, hurt and disbelief. I wish he would change his mind and pick someone else. But, he won't. And he doesn't care how a lot of us feel gay or straight.

After this long fought fight to get democrats in power.....


An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
And isn't it ironic... don't you think

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well isn't this nice..."
And isn't it ironic... don't you think

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
When you think everything's okay and everything's going right
And life has a funny way of helping you out when
You think everything's gone wrong and everything blows up
In your face

A traffic jam when you're already late
A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
It's meeting the man of my dreams
And then meeting his beautiful wife
And isn't it ironic...don't you think
A little too ironic...and, yeah, I really do think...

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
Life has a funny, funny way of helping you out
Helping you out



sorry meant to post this here.

... heh. :)

and that is quite understandable.

But I believe that he will prove many wrong.

I don't any more.

Faith is meant to be tested.
I hope that if he does something to promote Gay Rights that is meaningful,
you will have your faith restored....otherwise, you never had any to begin with.

I put my faith in him when I attended a war protest in Federal Plaza on October 2, 2002.

I had faith in Barack Obama in the fall of 2003 when everybody I knew was climbing on board with Blair Hull or Dan Hynes for the U.S. Senate nomination.

So yeah, my faith in Barack started a long time ago.

Today, I feel like the guy betrayed a trust.

and I believe that it will be momentary.

Obama isn't stupid. There is a method to his "madness".

And in the end, time will tell much better. I'll take my chance.

We'll soon hear and see the message from Barack Obama at the inauguration,
and Warren's audience will be there to witness it....and it is possible that
they are in greater need to hear the message than anyone else.

I personally can't wait.

It's ruined as far as I'm concerned.

No need.

It will be taped.
You can watch it later, after Obama proves you wrong.

I believe Obama will prove me wrong.

In fact, I now expect he will prove everything I thought about him during the entire election period from the time he announced to election night wrong.

you just told yourself that you did because you wanted to...but,

For anyone to believe that Barack Obama doesn't have a deliberate plan
mapped out that will end with everyone benefitting in a way that is purposeful
and meaningful, in particular on the issue of human rights....never had faith in him.

That's why so many have second guessed every single thing he has ever said and did throughout the primaries, the general elections and even now. Because they have no faith. You are included in that number.

But the beauty of it all is that there is nothing wrong with that.

I've just lost it.

Completely.

than what you would dictate, then you never had faith in him.
Believe me, it just was never there.
You can tell me till you are blue in the face,
and perhaps you believe it, but you just didn't have it.

Barack Obama never said that he was going to make gay marriage legal.
so if you thought so, that was misplaced faith.

Barack Obama always said he would deal in good faith with those who disagreed with him.
So if you had faith that he would ignore or not recognize those with a different view,
than not only did you not have faith, you didn't even hear what he was saying.

Obama said that this election was about big things.....
and that there were those who would make it about small things.

Those who choose to take a 3rd party 2 minute invocation, and sum it up to be so monumental
that all is lost, no matter what Obama has ever said and done to date,
including what he will do as President, cannot say they ever had any faith.
It may have heen something, but it wasn't faith that Obama would make a great President,
and bring progress to this nation.

Now, that's the truth.

I have real faith; faith that can be tested,
and so I wait and keep my eye on the prize...which are the big things,
meanwhile you can be outraged for the next 4 years
due to two minutes of symbolistic prayerful flagpin type ritual.

But, but, but....folks say......symbols means stuff. Sure they do, except for when the other side uses symbols to keep us at bay. We ridicule them then, but somehow, the honor that Rick Warren will be paying to Obama and all who voted for him, will be turned into an honor for Rick Warren, and called the worse thing that could have ever happened.

I welcome the 20 million who will watch what they may not have tuned in for otherwise.

Perhaps the small thing that Obama has done in providing one of theirs to be at the podium,
will open up their minds to the big things he will attempt to achieve during his term.

Those of us who hate the haters, become haters.
Good luck with that in helping anyone's cause.

Rain on your wedding day sucks, but it's not actually irony ( incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result).

Bad pick on Obama's part, and I guess this would be some irony...

He picked someone for his inaugural who probably didn't bring him any (or many) votes and who's followers likely worked against him, and as a result, offended a constituency that worked very hard to make sure he had an inauguration day to begin with.

Wikipedia claims there may be one or two examples of "irony of fate," like a pardon arriving too late to save a condemned man.

But on the other hand, the dictionaries are driven by the diction, and in this day and age it seems as if many if not most speakers of English either don't know or don't care what "irony" means in the books. In modern parlance, "ironic" tends to be synonymous with one of the many meanings of "shitty."

Shitty things is what the song is about, and that's also how the OP feels. And I'm sorry that's how the original poster feels, even if a whole lot of us saw the writing plain on the wall and weren't afraid to say it, then or now. In the balance, my friends, your support will reap its rewards, eventually.

n/t

There are better songs to use if one wants to pretend to be profound about something.

and apologize.

If you're not referring to the OP, then excuse me. But I don't see any other way to read your post.

"if one wants to pretend to be profound"

:wtf:

Gay people and your base be damn. Reaching out to this guy and still believing this is a great idea and put a damper on my joy of him winning. How can he not see this? How can he not feel for us? I feel foolish for ever believing in this guy. I don't know if I ever can.

Markos on Obama and Warren
John Aravosis (DC) · 12/18/2008 08:00:00 PM ET · Link


Markos makes an excellent point, that goes far beyond the Warren controversy.

Obama wouldn't be out there making perhaps the strongest statement in support of gays and lesbians by a president (though he's still not technically one, I know) if it wasn't for the sturm and drang this choice generated. It is precisely this backlash that has forced Obama to clearly affirm his commitment to equality. And it will be continued pressure that will force him to do the right thing on the issue.

If we shut up, he'll take the path of least resistance. And that path of least resistance is kowtowing to the conservative media, the clueless punditocracy, and bigots like Warren.

First off, Markos is correct. The sad lesson we're learning is that we're not going to get squat, any of us, gay or straight, if we don't beat the crap out of our elected officials on a regular basis.

That leads to the larger reason I'm so upset with Obama over this decision. I actually trusted the guy. I know, stupid me. I often see our readers writing in the comments that they can't believe I'm upset about one thing or another that I just read in the paper, and my readers berate me for my political naiveté. It's not that I'm naive. It's that for all of the bad news we seem to report on this blog (and I know, it gets heavy at time), I'm actually quite the optimist when it comes to politics. When someone like Obama tells me he's going to be different, I believe him. When he says he's going to challenge homophobia, even in his own community, I believe him. Now I believe a little bit less. Now I'm waiting to see when rhetoric becomes reality.

invocation.

And five million people booing him. Great way to start off his presidency don't ya think.