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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:05 PM Original message |
Now that I think of it, the LGBT community should thank Obama for the Warren invocation |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, Obama was just a genius to expose this bigot. Thank you PE Obama! |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Threads like this should be ashamed unless they are being sarcastic. n/t |
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warrior1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. Sorry but I'm just not big enough to 'forgive' or thank him for this |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. Uh oh, break out the popcorn... |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. nah, we need allies, not challenges. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
83. You do need allies |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #83 |
108. No they're not |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Heh |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. What are you talking about? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Read it again, apparently for the first time: |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. And my point is, that people aren't just trying to be contrary just to do so |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. And |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. I agree with you that there's too much of that going on |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. We don't agree then |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. ?? |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. shrug, |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. I appreciate the time and thought put into your post. |
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Balderdash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. I agree with you. How does a state constitution allow |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. If only FDR had included a Nazi in his 1940 inauguration! |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. What's the name of that rule again? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Not when you're discussing a time-frame in which they were relevant. nt |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. We're not discussing 1940, we're discussing now. n/t |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That rule doesn't exist, Godwin's law only says that the longer a conversation goes on... |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. My apologies |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Why, when it's a legitimate analogy? |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. I don't normally have a problem detecting sarcasm, but... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
55. When you have someone that preaches hate.. |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
85. When you have someone who preaches hate...what? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
95. Why do you hope I'm not serious??? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. This joint gets more bizarre by the minute |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Just don't bogart it, whatever you do. |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #95 |
103. IT'S NOT A LEGITIMATE ANALOGY, THAT'S WHY |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
87. Not a "rule" rules have to be proven. Some guy named Godwin made a statement. |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Deaf ears. |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. i'm sure a bush was present SOMEWHERE at FDR's inauguration |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. You do know that he did appoint a NAZI sympathizer as ambassador to the UK, right? And in '39 ... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
56. And he should not have done so. It came back and bit him on the ankle. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
96. Lingbergh was shut out of having a role in the War because of his sympathies |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. And Joe Kennedy got fired for his too. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
8. Great Post. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
14. Are you on eggnog? Rick Warren would go broke if he changed his position. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
16. Also, I don't know what common ground there is, this guy is a fraud when it comes to Poverty and... |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
18. HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. My reaction at first, too |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
23. You GO, Boyfriend! |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
24. Futile |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
25. Many churchs |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. Good post MrScorpio. I accept your challange. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. You read it absolutely correctly |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. How's the song go? |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Warren is also a public figure |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. I didn't say he had nothing to gain |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
28. Few would have though that a progressive politician and an evangelical preacher... |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
29. Well meaning, but useless advice |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
86. You are stating the situation rather clearly. It's a gain for Warren |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
30. That's freaking hi-liarilous |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
32. Well Warren did pull the GLBT "you are not wanted" bullshit down from his |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. It means that he's at least susceptible to pressure |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. "Thank you sir, may I have another?" n/t |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
122. Indeed. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. He put it back up. The message about gays not being allowed to be members of his church is back up. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Yes: |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Then such an action warrants a fervent response... |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. That would be an excellent response. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I'm no freaking political genius or community organizer |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Me neither. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. I totally see your |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
39. If Jesus wasn't able to cure these bigots, what makes you think Obama can? n/t |
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Kucinich07 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
97. Good point |
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Spectral Music (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
43. Mr. Scorpio, you're smokin your breakfast again! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
44. this is the obama way. it is what i voted for. |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
79. That's not how progress is made |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. i didn't say waiting. i said pushing. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #84 |
106. Respect the humanity |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
45. Should black people thank the RNC for "Barack the Magic Negro?" |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I didn't vote for the RNC |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. So, you would be offended if the president invited the compiler of that cd to speak at an event? |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I'm saying that the analogy is flawed |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. No racists would bother to try to get on Obama's good side, but homophobes have a good chance. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Well think about what I've said |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I agree, and that's why I'm speaking out in all the ways I can. Will you help me? |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. I don't mind Obama inviting them to the table |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
93. I think they should play that song at the Inaugural |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
53. You missed one of the important things that happened at the Saddleback debate... |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Of course, Prop 8 and the subsequent backlash has occured since them |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. We are the rank and file. Yet many here on DU have told gay folks to take a hike. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I'm sorry to hear that |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I am focusing it outward. Every way I can. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Not so fast... |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Well, I hope that you recognize with me that the fight ain't over. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. I agree. |
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biopowertoday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 04:17 AM Response to Reply #53 |
105. Yes, it is out in the open now for all to see. Perhaps |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
61. Yep |
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KitchenWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
65. Honestly, I don't believe PE Obama put as much thought into it as you have elucidated. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Then he should be exposed |
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KitchenWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I respectfully disagree. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. The fact is that people are talking, where they never have talked before |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. Unfortunately, Obama has immunized him |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #82 |
119. Bingo. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
68. Saying we're "wallowing in a morass of self pity and anger" doesn't do much to win us over. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I'm saying that he has a choice |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. He's already been exposed as a hypocrite. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
88. Or, maybe we should insult Warren to try and win him over. Hey, if insults work against our own |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
121. Why not? |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
71. Is this a fucking joke? It's an all out ORWELLIAN WAR OF WORDS on GLBTS now |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Am I crazy? Who am I to say? |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I didn't vote for lemons. You have the nerve to tell us we should be THANKFUL? |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. If I see an opportunity to succeed in spite of failure, I appreciate it |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
118. +1 |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
76. Concur w/your political assessment. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
89. The new Five Year Plan will surely fill the potato bins |
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jumptheshadow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
90. Hmmm, as an Etheridge fan I wonder if he'll attend this show... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
91. I don't think it's appropriate to thank Obama. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
92. Rick Warren is a bigot that believes that man and dinosaur coexisted 6,000 years ago |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I love quayle hunting. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. BINGO! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
101. Oh THANK you! THAAAAAAANK YOU!!!!!11 |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
102. This post is the reason why friends don't let friends Post While Intoxicated. n/t |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
107. You have alot of nerve. n/t |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
109. Are you out of your mind? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
116. I think that some good will eventually come of it. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-31-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
120. I Know You Mean Well, Mr. Scorpio |
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