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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:25 AM
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Obama Team Engages Public on Health Care
Daschle Visits Indiana for Grass-Roots Forum

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/29/AR2008122902230.html?wprss=rss_health

Dolly Sweet, 77, has battled cancer more than once. She's a fighter. But when her doctor recently prescribed a medication that cost $35,000 a year, she felt she had no choice.

"I canceled the medicine," she said matter-of-factly to former senator Thomas A. Daschle, President-elect Barack Obama's top health adviser, who had come to the fire station here on a quest for "fresh ideas" on improving U.S. medical care.

"I wonder if you could talk to the drug companies," Sweet asked Daschle. "That's more than my Social Security."

Daschle, seated on a metal folding chair with pen in hand and videographer in tow, symbolically kicked off the incoming administration's effort to revamp health care with a grass-roots event that not-so-coincidentally mimicked the types of gatherings that Obama drew on to build support for his presidential candidacy.

"It's stories like that that can make a huge difference as we try to persuade members of Congress and others about the importance of trying to make the system better," Daschle told Sweet.

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Daschle told the 35 people at the open meeting in Dublin -- one of 8,500 that will be held nationwide -- that it was "designed really to engage the public, to get out of Washington and hear directly from you about your concerns, about your recommendations, about ways you think our system can be made to work better." Aides said Daschle plans to attend another health-care forum today, at the Congress Heights Senior Wellness Center in Southeast Washington.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:27 AM
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1. I hope someone will start hammering on single payer...
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:35 AM
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4. I'll bet Daschle will get right on that
On the other hand, if you go to the healthcare section at Obama's "Ask a question site?" (http://change.gov/) single payer is being brought up a lot. I guess they'll find out how much attention is paid to that site by the response to the single payer questions. (Make sure you go to the site to vote, someone posted that only the most popular questions get answered.)


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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 04:36 AM
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9. We argued for single payer in 1993.
HHS Secretary made a comparable tour to get health care reform off the ground. We attended. Told Donna Shalala of Single Payers' virtues. She told us it was undo able politically, But nice try..
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:29 AM
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2. If I can get across town in time, I will be attending a meeting tomorrow evening.
They chose UTMB in Galveston as one of the locations for the meetings. I hope to make it.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:29 AM
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3. They NEED to address prevention and fitness as a major component of the plan.
The major causes of death and disease in our country are all strongly related to lifestyle choices like smoking, diet, drinking, drugs and exercise: Heart disease, lung disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:08 AM
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5. I agree with you that prevention and fitness should be part of the system
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 01:21 AM by dflprincess
just because I prefer to feel well and would prefer to avoid the doctor. But the fact appears to be that healthy lifestyle may cost healthcare systems more in the long run

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/15293006.html


Obese people, smokers cost the health system less than healthy do, study finds
February 4, 2008

Preventing obesity and smoking can save lives, but it doesn't save money, researchers reported Monday.

It costs more to care for healthy people who live years longer, according to a Dutch study that counters the common perception that preventing obesity would save governments millions of dollars.

"It was a small surprise," said Pieter van Baal, an economist at the Netherlands' National Institute for Public Health and the Environment, who led the study. "But it also makes sense: If you live longer, then you cost the health system more."

In a paper published online Monday in the Public Library of Science Medicine journal, Dutch researchers found that from age 20 to 56, obese people racked up the most expensive health costs. But because both the smokers and the obese people died sooner than the healthy group, it cost less to treat them in the long run.

On average, healthy people lived 84 years. Smokers lived about 77 years, and obese people lived about 80 years. Ultimately, the thin and healthy group cost the most, about $417,000, from age 20 on. The cost of care for obese people was $371,000, and for smokers, about $326,000.




If future studies bear this out I can just see for profit health insurers demanding that we go back to the days when everyone on T.V. smoked and doctors did cigarette commercials.

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:15 AM
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7. Fitness doesn't pay for your kids broken leg. Maybe they will outlaw TV? Think? Naw, they
won't.

They will fund corporate fitness centers. Watch.

And if you smoke some pot? No health care for you!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:12 AM
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6. The head of Health Care thinks we have a system. Shit, we are in trouble. Who is going to
tell him we got no system, just a bunch of band-aides and rip-offs?



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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:20 AM
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8. I really don't like the Obama plan. Here's what I wrote them:
We spend 16% of the US GDP on health care, and fail to insure 50 million people while providing substandard care for many of the rest. Other developed nations provide better care for all their citizens at substantially lower costs. The difference between them and us is that we permit a greed-driven, for-profit insurance industry to determine who will be covered, at what cost, and under what conditions. A major reason that we are not competitive in the world any more is that American industry and workers have to support the parasitic health insurance industry. We must look to the rest of the world for health care models. I believe that the most workable system for us would be a single-payer model with independent service providers operating under a system of reasonable cost controls.
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