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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:13 AM
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Stupid Nothalfbigoted now wants blacks and young voters banned
Nothalfdbigoted supporter RabidReptileAmy is still attempting to blame the general election result on voter fraud. The solution the bunch of bitter bigots came up with ID tests, Photo ID, banning "intimidating" blacks from polling stations.

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/29/possible-voter-fraud/

And these people claim they are not racist?

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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:17 AM
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1. It's interesting that people who say "I'm not racist/antisemitic/homophobic, but..."
are usually just that.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:24 AM
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2. Does Larry Johnson agree with this BS or does he just allow others to spew BS on his site?
EDITORIAL
The Myth of Voter Fraud


Published: May 13, 2008

Missouri and at least 19 other states are considering passing laws that would force people to prove their citizenship before they can vote. These bills are not a sincere effort to prevent noncitizens from voting; that is a made-up problem. The real aim is to reduce turnout by eligible voters. Republicans seem to think that laws of this kind will help them win elections, but burdensome rules like these — and others cropping up around the country — pose a serious threat to democracy and should be stopped.


The Missouri legislature is, as Ian Urbina reported in The Times on Monday, on the verge of passing an amendment to the State Constitution that would require proof of citizenship from anyone registering to vote. In addition to the Missouri amendment, which would require voter approval, Florida, Kansas, South Carolina and other states are considering similar rules.

There is no evidence that voting by noncitizens is a significant problem. Illegal immigrants do their best to remain in the shadows, to avoid attracting government attention and risking deportation. It is hard to imagine that many would walk into a polling place, in the presence of challengers and police, and try to cast a ballot.

There is, however, ample evidence that a requirement of proof of citizenship will keep many eligible voters from voting. Many people do not have birth certificates or other acceptable proof of citizenship, and for some people, that proof is not available. One Missouri voter, Lillie Lewis, said at a news conference last week that officials in Mississippi, where she was born, told her they had no record of her birth.

-snip

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/opinion/13tue1.html



The Myth Of Voter Fraud
By Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt
Thursday, March 29, 2007; Page A19

As Congress probes the firing of eight U.S. attorneys, attention is centering on who knew what, and when. It's just as important to focus on "why," such as the reason given for the firing of at least one of the U.S. attorneys, John McKay of Washington state: failure to prosecute the phantom of individual voter fraud.

Allegations of voter fraud -- someone sneaking into the polls to cast an illicit vote -- have been pushed in recent years by partisans seeking to justify proof-of-citizenship and other restrictive ID requirements as a condition of voting. Scare stories abound on the Internet and on editorial pages, and they quickly become accepted wisdom.


But the notion of widespread voter fraud, as these prosecutors found out, is itself a fraud. Firing a prosecutor for failing to find wide voter fraud is like firing a park ranger for failing to find Sasquatch. Where fraud exists, of course, it should be prosecuted and punished. (And politicians have been stuffing ballot boxes and buying votes since senators wore togas; Lyndon Johnson won a 1948 Senate race after his partisans famously "found" a box of votes well after the election.) Yet evidence of actual fraud by individual voters is painfully skimpy.

Before and after every close election, politicians and pundits proclaim: The dead are voting, foreigners are voting, people are voting twice. On closer examination, though, most such allegations don't pan out. Consider a list of supposedly dead voters in Upstate New York that was much touted last October. Where reporters looked into names on the list, it turned out that the voters were, to quote Monty Python, "not dead yet."

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/28/AR2007032801969.html

AND FROM THE BRENNAN CENTER FOR JUSTICE:

Allegations of widespread fraud by malevolent voters are easy to make, but often prove to be inflated or inaccurate. Crying “wolf” when the claims are unsubstantiated distracts attention from real problems that need real solutions. Moreover, these claims are frequently used to justify policies – including restrictive photo identification rules – that could not solve the alleged wrongs, but that could well disenfranchise legitimate voters.

The Brennan Center carefully examines allegations of fraud to get at the truth behind the claims.


Two New Reports:

An analysis of more than 250 claims of fraud in the Supreme Court's photo ID case
Finding not one proven case of a fraudulent vote that the challenged law could prevent
Exposing false assertions that photo ID is required for common activities

The Truth About Voter Fraud, examining inflated claims of voter fraud nationwide
Debunking claims of double voting, dead voters, and more

-snip
http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/

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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:31 AM
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3. Bigot Johnson introduuced new rules
to disassociate himself from absolute hate things. For example articles on the birth certificate. He has a select list of posters that can post to the front page. They are invited. Posters that post an article that is far too looney must say "In my name only", so as not to link it back to Nothalfbigoted.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:34 AM
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4. Yes, there are crazy people on the internet...........
Shocking, I know.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:44 AM
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5. We spend far too much time slapping down
our own supporters and sometimes Freepers. Some more time as someone said there, "slapping down a bigot or two" would be far more effective than bashing our own.

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:39 PM
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9. There are people here who deny that PUMA exists.
Or, at any rate, don't know how fucked up it got. Threads like this are helpful. I'm not sure I'm brave enough to wade into their litter boxes myself.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:53 PM
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11. Not that they don't exist- but that they are insignificant in both power and size.
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 01:54 PM by Marrah_G
You can find a few crazy people convinced of almost any topic somewhere on the net.

To seek out a handful of people spouting outrageous ideas just so one can get outraged over their posts and come to another site to then call attention to those posters seems a bit crazy in itself.

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 02:13 PM
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14. Probably!
But is it the bad crazy? :) I do have weird hobbies, I will admit. I also collect Bacon/Shakespeare "controversy" books.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 03:03 PM
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17. Good or bad only depends on who is doing the judging!
I have a few weird interests also =p
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:30 PM
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23. This site was at onme time expert at slapping down bigots.
One of its victories was



When every other site had started to believe her story.

Slapping down bigots is what we should do.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:57 PM
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12. I have more respect for
FREEPERS than these bigots. FREEPERS at least have a belief based on something. They come to their hate through some thought process. PUMA Scum have changed their view because of hate and are now just getting more and more deranged.

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 02:08 PM
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13. Deranged is the truth.
It's the strangest artifact of this election.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 02:15 PM
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15. and they are all on NoQuarterUSA
and TimeCube.com
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:51 AM
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6. Not Surprising....
It's a matter of faith among those people there was "massive voter fraud" in the caucuses that kept Sen. Clinton from winning there. They're very committed to their internal dialog that Obama must have cheated to win, no matter how little evidence there is for such.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:30 PM
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7. When will they learn?
They were used. They were trussed up and given $arah Plain as a reward and a sop to their feminism. They probably even had money stolen from them as Bigot Bowers claimed to have raised $20 million to clear the Hillary debt. Now they demonstrate what they are.

Desperate racists clinging on to any faint bigot dream to still - even now - win. Hence the birth certers, banning blacks etc etc. If any were Party members it is good they have gone.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:45 PM
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8. Um,
Who will get to define who is and who is not an "'intimidating' black"? :shrug:

Good God, what scum on that site. First and last time for me there.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:51 PM
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10. I think the question of whether the Republican party is racist,
is over. It ended with their support of Saltzman's "Barack the Magic Negro" CD. They are not only racist, they're ignorant, and seem to be quite proud of it.

The controversy surrounding a comedy CD distributed by Republican National Committee chairman candidate Chip Saltsman has not torpedoed his bid and might have inadvertently helped it.

Four days after news broke that the former Tennessee GOP chairman had sent a CD including a song titled “Barack the Magic Negro” to the RNC members he is courting, some of those officials are rallying around the embattled Saltsman, with a few questioning whether the national media and his opponents are piling on.

“When I heard about the story, I had to figure out what was going on for myself,” said Mark Ellis, the chairman of the Maine Republican Party. “When I found out what this was about I had to ask, ‘Boy, what’s the big deal here?’ because there wasn’t any.”

Alabama Republican Committeeman Paul Reynolds said the fact the Saltsman sent him a CD with the song on it “didn’t bother me one bit.”

“Chip probably could have thought it through a bit more, but he was doing everyone a favor by giving us a gift,” he said. “This is just people looking for something to make an issue of.”


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16919.html
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 02:47 PM
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16. These scum claim to be "Lost Democrats".
If you talk Repug and vote Repug, especially in 2008, you are Repug.

And this is your family:-

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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 03:57 PM
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18. ROLF. n/t
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:18 PM
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19. Have you seen this ukfordems?
http://www.harrietchristian.net/

I can't tell if it's a joke or not. Are they serious?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:29 PM
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20. "Street Smarts – Oh Yeah" It MUST be a joke because that woman humiliated herself
to the world.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:39 PM
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21. It's sad when you can't be sure.
It links to PUMA blogs, which makes me think they are serious. Which would be hilarious.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:22 PM
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22. These silly bigots are proud of her
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 11:23 PM by ukfordems
She was running coaches of bigots for McBush during the Election. They so hate Caroline Kennedy (or anyone that backed Obama) that yeah they probably are pushing Harriet Not SO Christian for Senate.
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