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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 05:53 PM
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Obama agrees with not seating Burris
"Roland Burris is a good man and a fine public servant, but the Senate Democrats made it clear weeks ago that they cannot accept an appointment made by a governor who is accused of selling this very Senate seat. I agree with their decision, and it is extremely disappointing that Governor Blagojevich has chosen to ignore it. I believe the best resolution would be for the Governor to resign his office and allow a lawful and appropriate process of succession to take place. While Governor Blagojevich is entitled to his day in court, the people of Illinois are entitled to a functioning government and major decisions free of taint and controversy," said President-elect Obama.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 05:54 PM
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1. I find it uplifting to see Senate Democrats
Throwing everything they have against corruption. This is something you don't see with Republicans.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 05:56 PM
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2. Lt. Gov. Quinn at a press conference really came down hard on Blagojevich.
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 05:57 PM by AtomicKitten
I think the preemptive swipe by the Dems in Congress will negate this appointment. I hope Quinn is charged with filling this seat because the Republicans would love nothing more to get their grubby paws on it through a special election.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 05:57 PM
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3. Here's a link to the statement
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:14 PM
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7. Thanks.
This whole thing sucks 'cause blago is acting like a repuke and I've read he voted like one too when he was in Congress.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 10:33 PM
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27. interesting he can comment on this while on vacation but
"no comment" on Israel/Gaza.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 05:58 PM
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4. Democrats know they need a strong candidate
not a place holder anyway. Or they may not win an open seat there. The person appointed needs to use the rest of this term to propel them to re-election
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 05:59 PM
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5. I wish no Democrats would have accepted Blago's invite in reference to this seat.
Mr. Burris should really have declined the invitation.
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bajamary Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:00 PM
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6. The IL Sec of State won't certify appointment



The IL Sec of State, Jesse White, said he will not certify Blago's appointment.

Jesse White and Roland Burris are both African americans from Chicago but that's about the end of their similarities. Jesse White has a very good reputation while Burris less so.

Furthermore, Roland Burris has personally give $$ to Blago as has his wife and other friends. So the odds of Burris actually becoming the Junior Senator from my state are very, very slim.

Thank God.


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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:16 PM
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8. He won't have a choice,...
Illinois law gives him no discretion. He is legally obligated to certify a legally made appointment
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:19 PM
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10. "Legally made"
That's the question - I'm sure the SoS has teams of lawyers trying to find some legally-credible way of saying this appointment was not legally made. At the very least, the question itself could stall the appointment until after Blagojevich's impeachment and removal.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:23 PM
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12. Not likely...
It may go to court, but unless Blago is impeached and convicted there is nothing that can be done...ultimately he will be forced to certify the choice...

Interview with former Governor Jim Thompson on NPR this afternoon. He knows what he is talking about made it pretty clear there is no wiggle room

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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 10:30 PM
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26. No they won't
The IL Attorney General already tried this trick, and the IL Supreme Court ruled against her. Blegojevich is scum, but he is legally entitled to fill this vacancy at this time.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:18 PM
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9. He's doing the right thing...
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 06:18 PM by S_E_Fudd
And should help insulate Dems in the Senate from those critical of them taking action...

Bobby Rush's comments were way out of line...Obama should slap him down quick...
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:23 PM
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11. He can't speak out against the slaughter in Gaza, but it's okay to jump into this circus?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:36 PM
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15. Obama isn't the President yet.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:25 PM
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13. Obama needs to learn when to keep his mouth shut. He has more important issues to keep him busy. n/t
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:35 PM
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14. Its his Senate seat. He can say what he wants. And he can do more than one thing at a time
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:21 PM
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16. I agree re "say what he wants" and "do more than one thing at a time" but he can't do every thing &
he needs to get his priorities in order.

As others have pointed out, he took time to speak out re the governors task of appointing a new senator for IL but he couldn't find time to comment on Israels massacre of civilians in Gaza.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:24 PM
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18. He's not the President yet. Why the hell should he be speaking about
an international conflict? Bush is barely opening his damn mouth. why take on problems before you have to?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 09:03 PM
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22. Because Obama may be able to make a statement that prevents Israel from murdering a few more
children.

That may not matter to you but it does to me.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 09:14 PM
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23. Nothing he says will stop Israel until he is sworn in. They're already using his words to justify
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 09:16 PM by BrentTaylor
the bombings. And this is also the type of conflict where you certainly don't want Obama and Bush out there sending different messages. And if you're Obama, why on earth would you want to even give either side a clue about what your policy is going to be right now?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 09:25 PM
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24. That's your opinion and IMO Obama MAY br able to save a child or two. n/t
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:02 AM
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32. Your course of action, jody, will likely kill more in the long run. Obama can't do the Israel thing
with Bush holding the reigns of power, still.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:41 PM
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21. I was wondering about that as well, but I haven't really had time to catch up on what's been
going on with the situation over there. I thought Obama's people did put out some sort of statement, or am I thinking of something else?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:30 PM
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29. ???? this sentate seat IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:24 PM
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17. Obama is being an ASS on this one
hate to say it he's wrong. Let that man be seated and leave well alone
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:37 PM
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20. Is he "an ass" because his disagrees with your view or because of how he's doing so?
Can you suggest any way he could have opposed this appointment in a non-assy way? Or is everyone who sees this problem different from you ipso facto an ass?
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:29 PM
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19. This is a case where I have to respectfully disagree with PE Obama n/t
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 10:23 PM
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25. He's right but I wish he would have stayed silent on this matter
Why do Dems constantly eat their own? Yeah, Blago is an idiot and corrupt, but dems need to find a way to deal with Burris QUIETLY and try not to ruin him in case he has to run for re-election in 2010. Burris only has a cloud if dems keep insisting he has one.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:19 PM
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28. Hopefully this should weaken the attempt to use the race card
and create a racially-tinged shitstorm if the Senate Democrats decide not to seat this guy.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:34 PM
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30. I am not defending Blago on this move, but he did the right thing...
By appointing someone for the Senate Seat, Blago actually did the right thing - for himself, as a governor, and for the dem party.

Once again, I am not defending Blago - I don't know if he is guilty or innocent of the indictments presented against him.

But as a Governor, he HAD to appoint a successor to Senator Obama or Blago would have been negligent in his duties.

Independent of what Reid and the Illinois Legislator has said, this appointment presents an immediate response that will actually accelerate the appointment of a replacement Senator. And, in reality, that is what the US Senate needs right now is ONE MORE DEMOCRATIC Senator seated to be counted on to vote on the issues we/they face.

Not having anyone appointed could/will prolong this appointment and that is detrimental to having as many voting Dem in the Senate as possible.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:35 PM
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31. This is a difficult one
On the one hand, you can't trust an appointment made by a man who expects payment for his decision and has stated so in so many words. So it taints ANY decision HE might make.

On the other hand, Burris may be a fine Senator, who rises above this scandal and proves himself to be more than the sum of his connections and circumstances and ascendancy.

But ultimately, a Senate seat is NOT something to gamble with, especially with such a fine balance already in the Senate.

I say no, not at this time.

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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 05:25 AM
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33. seat him
I also thought Blago did the best thing, short of resigning of course. And, as bad as the released taped excerpts of Blago's alleged extortion look, it's just out-of-context fragments, without any of the possible exculpatory info that may be part of the picture. Blago's situation needs to be more carefully resolved over time.

And when I was watching Quinn make his statement, I thought I was watching someone who, above all else, wanted to be governor himself. Could be wrong, but that was my impression.

I don't like the special election path. It'll take too long, and gives the repubs a chance at the seat that they're not really entitled to.

Obama is going to need every possible vote in the senate when he takes office, ASAP. The repubs have already said they won't support the stimulus unless it incorporates republican ideas. Great. I can't wait to see what they are. Republican ideas got us into this mess.
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