Can Obama amend the Auto Loan package so that the UAW workers don't get screwed?

Ken Burch

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Tue Dec-30-08 09:12 PM
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Can Obama amend the Auto Loan package so that the UAW workers don't get screwed?

Or at least not as badly screwed as they were in the Dubya-approved plan?

If anything, the feds should take possession of the private jets and maybe confiscate some of the mansions instead. It was never the workers fault that the Big Three blew it.

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billyoc

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Tue Dec-30-08 09:14 PM
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1. That's the beauty of it, if Bush can snatch people out of their beds

and put them in solitary for 5 years without a lawyer, Obama can change a fucking loan application. :rofl:

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Ken Burch

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Tue Dec-30-08 09:16 PM
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3. Well, if he can, let's make damn sure he does!

Also, the day after Obama signs the EFCA, he should personally fly to Alabama to support a card-check recognition campaign at all the auto plants in Shelbytopia.

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David Dunham

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Tue Dec-30-08 09:17 PM
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4. Yes he could but he will not. UAW pensions are going down

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Tue Dec-30-08 09:16 PM
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2. Sure thing. The President Elect can over rule the President.

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Ken Burch

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Tue Dec-30-08 09:17 PM
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5. I meant after he was sworn in. You knew that.

And remember, Obama was elected to overrule just about everything Lil' Dubbikins has done.

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Tue Dec-30-08 11:08 PM
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7. Yeah, I knew that.

Now if he will only do what he was elected to do. His new cabinet could contain some better choices.

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doc03

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Tue Dec-30-08 10:44 PM
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6. Bottom line I don't see how you are going to

overcome a $20 an hour labor cost difference without addressing legacy costs.

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JVS

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Tue Dec-30-08 11:10 PM
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8. Probably not. Crony capitalism, which is what the bailout is, is not designed to benefit workers.

The day you saw the UAW going to bat for management is when all observers should have noticed that they were screwn. Of course, one could argue that they were screwn well before that.

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Igel

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Wed Dec-31-08 12:16 AM
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9. Depends.

If it's signed, sealed, and delivered, probably not--if the recipients deem ot sufficient.

He can't just undo what's done--if it's implemented, he can only change what will happen, most likely.

Confiscate stuff, ex parte? Various prezes have tried that--some pulled it off, briefly, in and just after wartime when there was a justification. (You know, wartime powers of a president? No? Eh.) Otherwise, mostly not. Due process, rule of law, all that kind of rubbish usually eventually takes precedence. Sorry.

Now, I'm sure dear ol' Vladimirych could.

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riqster

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Wed Dec-31-08 10:23 AM
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10. What he CAN do is

...look at the loophole-ridden agreements and tighten them up and/or enforce compliance with existing terms & conditions. That alone would make a huge difference.

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