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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:19 PM
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Some people will defend anything with a (D) in front of their name.
Discuss.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:22 PM
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1. In front of their name? (d)ogs, (d)onuts, (d)ays off?
:shrug:
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:23 PM
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3. Well I'll defend donuts and days off
but I'm not too fond of dogs. Got bit by one when I was a kid.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:23 PM
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4. Doughnuts, Certainly, Ma'am, And Days Off: Not Sure About Dogs, Though....
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:24 PM
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5. TM, funny
I just posted the same thing at the same time. Great minds think alike.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:31 PM
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12. It is Apparently A Popular Position, Sir...
"Vox populi, Vox Dei!"
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:37 PM
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15. Hahaha! You cracked me up! I don't currently own a dog, but I do
have great affection for them, usually. So that vox isn't so populari.

I kid. Happy New Year, The Magistrate, and here's to a better life through science and common sense.

:toast:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:39 PM
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16. And The same To You, Ma'am, With Thanks
For the record, I can get along with large dogs; they seem calmer, somehow....
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:26 PM
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59. Vox puppuli. Dogs rule, people drool. Any questions?
:evilgrin:

RV, showing which side of this momentous issue she stands behind.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:27 PM
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9. put me down for dogs and days off
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:08 PM
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25. ...and damned fine abs!
:fistbump:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:32 PM
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53. (D)ante's Inferno...
:kick:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:22 PM
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2. some people will trash anything with a (D) in front of their name.
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 09:23 PM by wyldwolf
I makes them feel important and smart.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:25 PM
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8. And unfortunately here on DU that's been happening a lot lately
It's like watching a building collapse in slow motion.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:45 PM
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17. lately?
it's practically DU's reason for existance...
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:52 PM
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19. I'll amen that.
It appears that our favorite appetizer here at DU is other Democrats. The problem is that other elected Democrats just won't jump through our hoops or bow and kneel to our demands. This country would certainly run more perfectly if DU were totally in charge of running things. Oh hell, make that the world, we ought to think big.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:05 PM
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23. Heh. That appetizer needs to change. nt
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:41 PM
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60. I'm afraid it's
becoming the Main Course lately.

We do still have some good (R)s for dessert, though!
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:34 AM
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39. Point taken, it never really stopped after the primary
It did get quiet until a few week after the election when the shit stirrers started up again.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:53 PM
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30. it's sucks that dems are held to a higher standard..
it's just not fair at all. :eyes:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:37 PM
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37. it really sucks how the perfect are the always the enemy of the good.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 07:36 AM
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41. I'd say it sucks to keep redefining both "perfect" and "good" in Repuke terms
And yes, it's even worse when Dems do that.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 07:47 AM
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42. I'd say it sucks to define yourself by how much you whine
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:31 AM
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43. Objecting to mass murder = "whining"
Let's be conciliatory and just gripe about 500,000 dead Iraqis.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 09:20 AM
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44. who are you referring to as a "mass murderer??"
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 10:32 AM
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45. Anyone who thinks that imperialism for fun and profit is a good idea n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 10:38 AM
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46. Like who?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 10:46 AM
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47. Al From and Joe Lieberman and similar fucktards n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 10:50 AM
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48. oh, like Franklin Roosevelt and Barack Obama. I see the criteria now.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 10:54 AM
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49. Semm to recall that Japan attacked us and Germany declared war on us
Unlike Iraq. Or any country in Central or South America. And Iran, including prior states occupying the territory, hasn't waged aggressive war on anyobdy since the Sassanid dynasty.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 10:56 AM
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50. but you're forgetting FDR's imperialistic moves in latin america...(or maybe never knew!)
Edited on Thu Jan-01-09 11:01 AM by wyldwolf
despite "progressive" posturing, imperialism can happen anywhere, not just the middle east. :)

And regardless, "mass murder" of civilians is still mass murder, no matter who attacked who first.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 11:00 AM
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51. Every single American president in the 20th century is a mass murderer
Even Carter--getting the Taliban started in Afghanistan.

The problem is that like the former Soviet Union, the expense is destroying us.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 11:01 AM
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52. based on your standards, I'll agree
Edited on Thu Jan-01-09 11:01 AM by wyldwolf
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:58 AM
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66. While true, one doesn't excuse the other.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:24 PM
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6. Some people will drool incessantly as soon as Superhero Prosecutors say the word
Both groups are morons, needless to say.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:33 PM
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14. It is very vexing that Fitz has yet to get that indictment.
It makes no sense to me, if he has all the evidence he believes he has, he has said he has. Indictments are the easy part, trying the defendant within the allotted time under the federal speedy trial act is another. Not to mention all of the tainting of the jury pool - I predict that a motion for change of venue or dismissal based on highly excessive and prejudicial pre-trial publicity in the works.

Hell, all of DU assumes Blago is guilty, we are purportedly the progressives, the bleeding heart liberals that believe defendants are innocent until proven guilty.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:54 PM
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20. What do you make of Fitz wanting to extend?
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/12/31/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4694100.shtml

December 31, 2008, 12:20 PM
Fitzgerald Wants Extension For Blago Indictment
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:22 PM
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27. In makes no sense to me - unless he doesn't want to
try the case within the first 3 months of the year.

Federal Speedy Trial Act provides

Title I of the Speedy Trial Act of 1974, 88 Stat. 2080, as amended August 2, 1979, 93 Stat. 328, is set forth in 18 U.S.C. §§ 3161-3174. The Act establishes time limits for completing the various stages of a federal criminal prosecution. The information or indictment must be filed within 30 days from the date of arrest or service of the summons. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(b). Trial must commence within 70 days from the date the information or indictment was filed, or from the date the defendant appears before an officer of the court in which the charge is pending, whichever is later. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(c)(1).

But if he has the evidence he claims to have, he should be prepared to go to trial.

I don't get it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:56 PM
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31. Thanks. I don't either. Could he be waiting to see where he stands
as far as his job goes?

I think Fitz is honest but so many don't. There has got to be a reasonable explanation.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:05 PM
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33. I seriously doubt that he has concerns about a job
He is a good prosecutor - Obama via Holder will not get rid of all the US attorneys, those over offices and in charge of divisions will probably be replaced.

I suppose he could be waiting for the new admin, for the sake of uniformity. It will be very hard to seat a jury - the negative press and the amount of it has Blago guilty. That is a sad state of affairs considering that "innocent until proven guilty" is the basis of our justice system.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:25 PM
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7. I have seen it here, yes. Blind loyalty is bad for any organization.
Being a team player is good but sometimes you have to cut some people loose for the betterment of the team.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:29 PM
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10. Some people will defend due process as granted under the constitution. Discuss.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:32 PM
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13. Unless the defendant is a Republican, of course.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:49 PM
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29. Due process is required for official actions and bodies
I can categorically state that my own view of Blagojevich requires a lower standard than a court of law ....

I have already decided the man is scum, given his attempted shakedown of the Childrens Memorial Hospital .... I don't need a court of law to determine that even TRYING to do this is a huge turd in the Governor's punch bowl ....

In his own immortal words : Fuck him ....
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:23 PM
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35. It's good to talk with people who have strong opinions, but just because you believe it don't make
it so. I will will wait for the whole story before I create such an opinion.
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chaplainM Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:29 PM
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11. Except D'nesh D'sousa n/t
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:48 PM
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18. Well yea...............
The same way some people who will defend anything with a (R) in front of their name.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:55 PM
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21. .......
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:57 PM
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22. I make an exception for the Dallas Cowboys. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:07 PM
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24. ...
:rofl:


As a Giants fan, I salute you! :patriot:

And Happy Holidays to you, Mookie.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:10 PM
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26. I'm very glad to see the Giants do so well. Keep the faith in the new year!
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 10:11 PM by MookieWilson
And I'm a 'Skins fan.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:44 PM
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28. Dilaudid, yes; Dog The Bounty Hunter, no
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 10:45 PM by mitchum
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:59 PM
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32. Joe Lieberman (D-CT)
Discuss
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:33 PM
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36. Isn't he technically no longer a Democrat?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 12:31 AM
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38. He caucuses with the Democrats
and he still chairs the Homeland Security Committee, and has been embraced by Reid and Obama. I guess that makes him a Democrat, of the Quisling kind.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 07:55 PM
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58. Nothing to discuss he should lose any leadership position he
has and he should be kicked out of the Democratic Caucus. He lied to his own constituency and he got in bed with the Repugs.

He makes me sick and he will do everything to sabotage the Dems and Obama in 09, count on it.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:10 PM
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34. You will all give me eleventy bazillion dollars! -- (D)Posteritatis
*crosses fingers*
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:36 AM
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40. are you talking about Blagojevich ?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:37 PM
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54. (D)crab legs?
I'll defend that!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:37 PM
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55. They shouldn't.
Bad people can be of any party affiliation.

Ditto for good people.

It is prejudiced to say "they must be a Republican". Or "they must be a Democrat".
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:45 PM
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56. I would expect such an attitude at a place called
DEMOCRATIC underground
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:04 AM
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72. on the contrary... some are determined...
...the Democratic party STAY underground.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:58 PM
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57. Exactly. If the Democrats are going to stay on top, we need to police ourselves.
We're not Republicans. We don't have room for corrupt assclowns like Stevens, Cunningham, Ney or Blagojevich. We police our party. When we find that one of our own has been caught in corruption, we kick his sorry ass to the curb.

We must hold our elected officials to high standards. The Republicans certainly won't.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:43 PM
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61. Not me. They really went downhill after a few albums.


:P
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 11:58 PM
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62. I'm even worse..
I defend everyone. I think it's some personality disorder.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 01:35 AM
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63. Yep, that's why now I'm technically "unaffiliated"'.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.............

:shrug:
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:07 AM
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64. Dingo. Indefensible. It ate the baby.
:evilgrin:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 03:40 AM
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65. Good. We need to build a strong sense of party loyalty in order to force through our agenda.
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Madison knows Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 12:56 PM
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67. While others defend anything with an (R) in front of theirs.
It's all about power.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 01:00 PM
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68. Yep, "Dog Day Afternoon" is a great film.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:09 AM
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69. I defend anything, if it promotes the (d) cause.
People who don't support working people are (d)ead to me.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:17 AM
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70. And Some people will attack anything with a (D) in front of their name
Some will do both. Some neither.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:28 AM
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71. Kool-aid comes in more than one flavor (n/t)
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