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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:37 AM Original message |
Tim Kaine is the product of Dean's 50-state strategy |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Not only that, but it appears some of the Kaine backlash is related to him replacing Dean. . . |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
80. he said all along that he would leave if obama won. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
2. When you go to ALL the states not all of the people there will elect a Vermont type liberal |
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EconomicLiberal (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Howard Dean isn't a Vermont-type liberal himself. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Funny, many here think he is the next coming of Jesus |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Obama has set policy with this choice and with the choice of Rick Warren. |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. He was the first Democrat who had the cojones to publically criticize Bush. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Al Gore also spoke up and he was my hero as well |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
4. and will he continue Dean's Strategy |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Hmmm.... will Kaine continue the Winning Strategy... or will Kaine pick the strategy of the Losers |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. it is tough to answer, because You and I don't know |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:44 AM Original message |
Yeah we should ignore the liberal credentials of the President Elect. . . |
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EconomicLiberal (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Kaine doesn't pick anybody. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
8. Bottom line....the Democratic chair is anti-gay and anti-choice, and unfavorable to labor. |
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camera obscura (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. His views on abortion are virtually the same as Obama and Biden |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:48 AM Original message |
All is well. All is good. Religious right is happy. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
14. the religious right dislikes any Dem or am I living in a black and white world only? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Obama set the tone with this choice. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. He is to the right of their views, and their views are rightist enough |
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camera obscura (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. How is he to the right of their views? |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
76. He's not. But some people here just need to be outraged. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
74. Shh! You're ruining the fake outrage party! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I'm not excusing it (if you read my post you'd realize that). I'm saying |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. One article said he would be "the face" of the party. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Tim Kaine was almost his VP, perhaps he got this instead of not being given the VP slot? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
11. Clever indeed. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. That fact that you are responding twice to my OP tells me you are upset and |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I am saying you are blaming others for Obama's new policy of anti-choice and anti-gay. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. "off my rocker"?? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Well that goes to show you can't back up your statement. I've "blamed" noone. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
73. Madfloridian--I keep hoping that all this is tactical on Obama's part-- |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I would like to see both parties blown up. Start over. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Now There's A GRAND IDEA! |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
20. It has been 12 years since Virginia elected a Republican Governor |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Untill 2006 it had more Repub Congress/Senators and voted for Bush |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
48. That's because the Dems literally wouldn't run a Dem for Senator |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
23. Kaines' conservative statements that were picked out during a campaign |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Please read my post in GDP. He advocated for abstinence only education. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. He obviously *has* read your post. You need to read his response to know that. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I read the title but did not read the post Berni |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. Aparently the title was all you *needed* to read. LOL |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. I don't bother even reading your hack jobs on Kaine madfloridian |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I don't recall writing that much about Tim Kaine. But I sure got your message just now. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I never said that you wrote about Kaine during the primaries. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. I used his words from his campaign. Read it before you dig the hole deeper. |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
69. You should read your own post. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Oh my! That's gonna leave a mark... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. It leaves no mark. It just is painful to see a Democratic forum.... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. You are the only one doing the attacking. Spam responsing OPs is just that |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. You are accusing me of spam responsing?? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. No. It's evident in your responses. You started three response chains to the OP in this thread. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Then perhaps you should do something about it. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I have. I've moved on. Maybe you should too. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Thanks Grantcart. I wonder if Plouffe's focus will be ensuring Obama stays POTUS |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. I think that all we can say is that Obama has a completely different model |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
27. Tim Kaine was the product of Mark Warner |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Yes, indeedy. Women and gays to the back of the bus. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
29. DU never ceases to amaze me. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. The DNC Chair is NOT the "Face" of the party when the party has the POTUS. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. He will be Obama's formal spokesperson on the air. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Really? He's going to serve as Obama's Press Secretary too? |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
32. No Man or Woman would escape outrage posts here. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. How shocking that people express their opinions on a political forum! |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. The state of mind has been that way for a long time |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. When tempered with appreciation for the positives... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
40. Thanks bernie for bringing |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. how so? He was elected in 2005! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Kaine was behind and the underdog of the election right up to October of 2005 |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Mark Warner got Kaine elected. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Have to disagree. Mark Warner helped, but could never win in Republican areas. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. ok, so what exactly did Dean do in VA that got Kaine elected? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. If you must ask... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Dean came to VA and did that? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Oh for crying out loud. HERE |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. THAT is a 2008 article about congressional seats. Not one from 2005 about Kaine! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. The DNC started the 50-State Strategy in 2005 and Kaine was benefiting from it by September |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Completely naive to believe 2005 was the first year volunteers did mailings. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Mark Warner helped win Republican areas by being an excellent governor |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
49. Does anyone know what Dean is going to do?? nt |
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Left 0f Center (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
61. exactly right. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
65. Dean is the man who wanted the confederate flag waver to vote Democratic |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. Obama is no dummy. Kaine will do fine in his position along with |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
77. People forget that Dean himself is a moderate. |
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