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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:52 PM
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Obama's OLC nom: ‘We must regain our ability to feel outrage whenever our government acts lawlessly'
:wow:

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/05/dawn-johnsen-nomination/


Obama’s OLC nominee: ‘We must regain our ability to feel outrage whenever our government acts lawlessly.’»


President-elect Barack Obama announced today that Dawn Johnsen will serve as the next Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC). Salon’s Glenn Greenwald calls the pick “Obama’s best yet, perhaps by far.” As evidence, Greenwald highlights an article in Slate that Johnsen authored last year, in which she excoriated John Yoo’s infamous torture memo:



I want to second Dahlia’s frustration with those who don’t see the newly released Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) torture memo as a big deal. Where is the outrage, the public outcry?! The shockingly flawed content of this memo, the deficient processes that led to its issuance, the horrific acts it encouraged, the fact that it was kept secret for years and that the Bush administration continues to withhold other memos like it — all demand our outrage.

Yes, we’ve seen much of it before. And yes, we are counting down the remaining months. But we must regain our ability to feel outrage whenever our government acts lawlessly and devises bogus constitutional arguments for outlandishly expansive presidential power. Otherwise, our own deep cynicism, about the possibility for a President and presidential lawyers to respect legal constraints, itself will threaten the rule of law — and not just for the remaining nine months of this administration, but for years and administrations to come.


Johnsen also criticized the Democratic Congress for legalizing Bush’s surveillance program. She also wrote passionately about restoring our “nation’s honor” by condemning “our nation’s past transgressions” and rejecting “Bush’s corruption of our American ideals.”

Update: Tim Fernholz notes that Johnsen's recently written articles are entitled Faithfully Executing the Laws: Internal Legal Constraints on Executive Power and What's a President to Do? Interpreting the Constitution in the Wake of the Bush Administration's Abuses.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:56 PM
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1. She sounds great. n/t
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:04 PM
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2. She's so right. Think of all the times the bushies broke the law and what was our response?
Initially, it was outrage... and over time turned into responses like "so what's new" or "no surprise here" or "yawn".
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 04:59 PM
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13. Exactly. Nice to finally get a staff pick who believes in open government and accountability.
Edited on Mon Jan-05-09 05:00 PM by blm
I supported Obama BECAUSE he spoke of accountability and transparency of an open government. I've been disappointed by those picks of players who have been part of the DC powerstructure community and who have long sided with closed government, its secrecy and its privilege.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:06 PM
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3. Why are progressives being shut out of the administration?!?!?!111!!!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:10 PM
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4. Damn shame...
no one has anything to bitch about with this selection.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:18 PM
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6. Funny how few threads are started
over more liberal appointees.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:24 PM
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8. Yes, god forbid good news gets celebrated. nt
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:31 PM
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9. true.....
and it seems so odd to me...
since fighting against something rarely works...
while working for something you want has such power.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:39 PM
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10. force of habit
When was the last time we had a liberal President? Probably before many people on DU were politically active or even born. They don't know how to do anything but react to the bad.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 03:26 PM
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12. Unfortunately...
someone will come along and prove your comment wrong :(
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:40 PM
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30. They'll probably find something..... nt
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:58 PM
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25. Yah! We got an Assistant Attorney General!
Edited on Wed Jan-07-09 12:59 PM by Finnfan
We are really moving in the right direction! :woohoo:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:12 PM
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5. I love her already! Thanks for the quotes and the link. Now I have
some reading to do!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:22 PM
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7. Good!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:45 PM
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11. This thread will sink without any acknowledgment of Obama doing anything right....
or at least not enough for it to make a difference.

Folks are so busy lining up in the threads where they can pronounce Obama not enough of this or enough of that prematurely, that the stuff they might approve of will never be sufficient.

They encourage the negative criticism without promoting the positive even when they could. And yet chastise some of us who are doing due-patience even after 8 long years.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:23 PM
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28. I like this pick
And I like Panetta.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 06:43 PM
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14. K&R
:kick:
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 06:50 PM
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15. No nonsense respect for the rule of law
Edited on Mon Jan-05-09 06:50 PM by Uzybone
Me Likey.
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Katha Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 06:54 PM
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16. This is a fantastic appointment
and deserves applauding. I'm so glad the Justice dept will actually have law-abiding appointees!
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:49 PM
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17. return to rule of law
It has been a very long time.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:54 PM
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18. I thought this thread would surely be on fire by now. I guess she's
a good pick.

Here's to doing a great job Dawn Johnsen!

:toast:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:56 PM
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19. K&R
:kick:

Color me unsurprised and pleased.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 02:07 AM
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20. Kicking and Recommending...
No surprise that this thread has sunk...it is good news.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:03 AM
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21. Well about bloody time.
Finally an appointment that I am satisfied with. It would be nice if she was more than an assistant attorney general.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:56 PM
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24. What do you think of Susan Rice?
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Sentath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 02:27 PM
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22. Between her and Panetta I feel better than I have in a month
really
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 02:48 PM
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23. Swoon!
I think I'm in love. :loveya:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:05 PM
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26. Music to my ears!
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:20 PM
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27. I was really glad about this appointment too. //nt
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:27 PM
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29. i can't rec but i can
kick. this is good news.
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