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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 03:32 PM
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***MN Supreme Court rejects Colemans' suit. Canvassing Board Certifies Result
Edited on Mon Jan-05-09 03:42 PM by grantcart
Next step Minnesota Elections Cavassing Board certifies election results and then the Secretary of State will announce that he intends to certify the results as final. Coleman will then have 7 days to try and overturn the decision in the courts, any recounting would have to be paid for by Coleman.




Coleman dealt another setback as recount nears end



http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MINNESOTA_SENATE?SITE=NYMID&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) -- The Minnesota Supreme Court on Monday rejected Republican Norm Coleman's request to count an additional 654 rejected absentee ballots in his weeks-old Senate showdown with Democrat Al Franken. The ruling clears the way for the state Canvassing Board to certify results showing Franken the winner after the Supreme Court said the issue is best settled in a post-count lawsuit.

Coleman's attorneys have said they're likely to sue if he loses the recount, meaning it could be weeks more before the outcome is final.

"Today's ruling, which effectively disregards the votes of hundreds of Minnesotans, ensures that an election contest is now inevitable," Coleman attorney Fritz Knaak said in a written statement. "The Coleman campaign has consistently and continually fought to have every validly cast vote counted, and for the integrity of Minnesota's election system, we will not stop now."

Coleman has argued the ballots were improperly rejected. Franken's campaign said Coleman was focusing only on ballots that would allow him to prevail.

Franken, the former "Saturday Night Live" personality who has been active in Democratic politics for years, leads Coleman by 225 votes. That's after the state counted more than 2.9 million ballots, including 900 absentees not counted on Nov. 4 because of poll worker errors.

"Minnesotans have waited a long time for a winner to be declared in this race, and today, with the last attempt to halt the counting process now having failed, Al Franken will be declared the winner," said Franken attorney Marc Elias.

The state Supreme Court cited an earlier order requiring candidates and local election officials to agree on which unopened absentee ballots should be included in the recount. Justice Alan Page said the ballots Coleman identified didn't have that consensus.

The ruling was another hard blow to Coleman, who entered the weekslong recount up by 215 votes.





Marc Ambinder



http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/01/minnesotas_canvassing_board_is.php

Minnesota's canvassing board is set to certify comedian Al Franken as the winner of the Senate race by 225 votes, or less than one-one thousandth of a percent.

The Secretary of State, a Democrat, will announce that he's going to certify the race.

At that point, Republican incumbent Norm Coleman's lawyers will have seven days to file an official election contest.

The adjudication of the contest would be decided by three judges appointed by the state's chief justice,

Does Coleman have a case, or is he simply spitting out sour milk?

The answer, as is almost always the case in election disputes, is that one's perspective fixes the law more than the law fixes one's perspective. Casting a ballot and having it counted accurately seems to be simple, but humans have found ways to inject Heisenberg-scale uncertainties into the process.

Coleman's contest will rest on the claim that the state canvassing board violated election law when it came to precincts where duplicated ballots -- those given to voters whose original ballots were damaged -- were included in the tally along with the original, damanged ballots. That seems suspect, right? But the board's response is that they did their best not to include duplicates in the tally.

And the remedy would be... what, exactly? Discarding ballots that are unmarked duplicates would almost certainly disenfranchise voters -- maybe -- depending upon the external reality of the vote count, which is unknowable -- it would take away more voters from legitimate voters than it would take away second, duplicative voters. Franken's campaign contends that there's no reason to assume that just because, in certain precincts, the number of ballots exceeds the number of people who signed up to vote there, the culprit is duplicate voting and the remedy would be to discard all ballots that can't be matched. In cases where the precinct tallies exceed the voter role tallies, the election contest board will most likely investigate, and this will take time...perhaps more than a month.

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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 03:35 PM
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1. Yay...K & R!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 03:47 PM
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6. made my New Years Hope and Change and a few laughs
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 03:40 PM
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2. Why were these 654 ballots rejected?
Why does Coleman now want them counted? Was one of them the one that he refused to accept and then found out it was a vote for him?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 03:45 PM
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4. all the rejections were on the basis of objective application of the standards

i.e. identifying mark (somebody put their name and address on the ballot) or voter intent was not clear.

There was no real controversy about these Coleman's only point, and it wouldn't make a difference and doesn't make any sense is that there was double voting.

He is going to lose, the recount was very transparent and very well done.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 03:43 PM
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3. edited to add new subject line
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 03:46 PM
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5. SWEET!!!
Franken can now go to the Senate tomorrow with an official certification of election, which means the Rethugs will look really bad if they try to block him.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 03:50 PM
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7. Exactly

Coleman has to show cause why anything should be done, has to show +226 votes and has to pay for it himself.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 05:03 PM
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13. Worst plausible scenario:
Franken's swearing-in gets delayed by a week or two, but if Coleman takes it to court, chances are the court case will be resolved pretty quickly, maybe with a court order to at least temporarily seat Franken while the court case is pending.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 05:36 PM
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14. Coleman also looks like an idiot eliminating future political consideration
while Franken just gave a speech that sounded well Senatorial.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 04:10 PM
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8. OFF TO THE GREATEST! :-D
:woohoo:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 04:41 PM
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9. woohoo to you too
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 04:46 PM
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10. Just heard on NPR that Frankens' victory has been officially certified.
Of course, Coleman will contest the result in court so the whole process will likely be delayed a couple more weeks, but the outcome is pretty much certain.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 04:56 PM
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11. he is coming up on CNN now
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 04:57 PM
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12. I just looked up norm coleman at onetheissues
Fuck that asshole. What a sellout from what he used to be.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 05:40 PM
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15. Just wonderful!
:woohoo:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 07:34 PM
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16. SENATOR.... AL.... FRANKEN!!!!!!!!!!!
:bounce:
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