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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 02:53 PM
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Feinstein bucks Dems on Burris
Maybe its payback to Obama for naming Panetta, but. . .

Feinstein bucks Dems on Burris
By MANU RAJU | 1/6/09 1:27 PM EST

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) broke with her party’s leadership Tuesday in calling for Roland Burris to be seated in the Senate once his paperwork is signed by the Illinois secretary of state.

Feinstein, a senior member of the Judiciary Committee, said that not allowing Burris to be seated could broadly undermine future gubernatorial appointments.

“I can’t imagine the secretary of state countermanding a gubernatorial appointment,” Feinstein said. “The question, really, is one in my view of law. And that is, does the governor have the power to make the appointment? And the answer is yes. Is the governor discredited? And the answer is yes.

“Does that affect his appointment power? And the answer is no until certain things happen.”
-snip-

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17118.html
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 02:54 PM
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1. If the IL gov is not indicted or in jail, then the SoS has to sign it and the senate has to seat him
I think she's correct.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 02:55 PM
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4. I agree with that.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 04:49 PM
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35. Yes. You're right.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 02:55 PM
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2. She is taking the correct position, whatever her motivation.
Is the IL SoS going to sign?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 02:55 PM
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3. The courts will have to decide
Diane Feinstein isn't a judge last I knew.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:00 PM
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5. One must be a judge to give an opinion?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:04 PM
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17. Dianne Feinstein can have her opinion
it just doesn't carry a lot of weight.
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:01 PM
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9. Still spouting this BS ?
You still think the SOS has veto power over then Gov. ?

You still think the ILSC will give the SOS that power ?

Jeeeesh, no wonder our party is in trouble.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:04 PM
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15. Yes, I do.
And I'll stand by that position until the courts rule otherwise.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:00 PM
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6. I imagine it's payback...
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec5.html

Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 5 - Membership, Rules, Journals, Adjournment


Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.

Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.

Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

**************************


http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/12/10/all-50-senate-dems-sign-blagojevich-letter/

December 10, 2008

Dear Governor Blagojevich:

We write to insist that you step down as Governor of Illinois and under no circumstance make an appointment to fill the vacant Illinois Senate seat. In light of your arrest yesterday on alleged federal corruption charges related to that Senate seat, any appointment by you would raise serious questions.

It is within the authority of the Illinois legislature to remove your power to make this appointment by providing for a special election. But a decision by you to resign or to step aside under Article V of the Illinois Constitution would be the most expeditious way for a new Senator to be chosen and seated in a manner that would earn the confidence of the people of Illinois and all Americans. We consider it imperative that a new senator be seated as soon as possible so that Illinois is fully represented in the Senate as the important work of the 111th Congress moves forward.

Please understand that should you decide to ignore the request of the Senate Democratic Caucus and make an appointment we would be forced to exercise our Constitutional authority under Article I, Section 5, to determine whether such a person should be seated.

We do not prejudge the outcome of the criminal charges against you or question your constitutional right to contest those charges. But for the good of the Senate and our nation, we implore you to refrain from making an appointment to the Senate.

Sincerely,

Sen. Reid
Sen. Durbin
Sen. Schumer
Sen. Murray
Sen. Akaka
Sen. Baucus
Sen. Bayh
Sen. Biden
Sen. Bingaman
Sen. Boxer
Sen. Brown
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Sen. Casey
Sen. Clinton
Sen. Conrad
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Sen. Feingold
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Sen. Pryor
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Sen. Tester
Sen. Webb
Sen. Whitehouse
Sen. Wyden
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:01 PM
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11. Fuck her...she's playing a game. n/t
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 04:48 PM
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33. Not a helpful comment. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:01 PM
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12. DiFi is about protocol and process. Same with the Panetta fracas. It's about process. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:03 PM
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14. Is she? Sounds like either sour grapes or covering her hide. If she
Edited on Tue Jan-06-09 03:06 PM by babylonsister
was so intent on process, why did she sign the letter posted above for Blago to resign?
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:00 PM
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7. I'm trying to remember why I ever liked Di Fi ! n/t
She is obviously very P O'd today, and in a very argumentative mood. Maybe she wants to take over for Harry Reid, or something, maybe she's jealous of Pelosi's power in the House.

Well, this is a tempest in a teapot for Di Fi, she needs something more exciting to do with her time than argue with the will of the President Elect and the Senate President in her own party.


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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:02 PM
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13. Because she cancelled her own campaign and busted her butt to get Boxer elected. nt
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:04 PM
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16. Good enough reason! I like Boxer a lot more...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:05 PM
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18. There you go!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:31 PM
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28. Because she was instrumental in getting Mukasey confirmed?
:shrug:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:00 PM
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8. I agree with her. Funny that of all things, Reid finally decides to take a stand on this.
I honestly wonder who is forcing his hand here.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:06 PM
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19. The most recent person to speak to him?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:11 PM
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22. And who was that?
Who wants to keep Burris out? Senate Democrats or Obama? People seem to think that denying Burris might get Blago to resign. Unfortunately for them, Burris seems more than willing to fight this himself, rather than rolling over and punting the issue back to Blago.

It's fun political theater right now, but I suspect the fun is about to wear out.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:12 PM
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23. It's making IL look bad. They need to act on the gov's status, seat this guy or do something.nt
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:30 PM
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27. Yes, I can see how this has ceased to be amusing for the citizens of IL.
My hometown is Detroit so, um, suffice it to say that I feel your pain. *cough*Kwame*cough*
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 04:48 PM
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32. I'm in MD. But it's making Dems look bad. nt
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:01 PM
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10. I agree on one part of this.
The SoS should not be able to deny the governor. If it's the governors job to appoint, then the SoS should be forced to sign a legal order. I still don't think Burris should be seated.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:15 PM
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25. The law doesn't give the IL SoS any discretion in the matter. nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:07 PM
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20. I dont like her, but she is spot on here.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:11 PM
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21. Seems like she is a little power hungry these days

It's not what she says but the way that she says it.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:13 PM
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24. The facts are on her side here. Everybody in the senate is power hungry. nt
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 08:39 PM
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36. I just saw her on TV, I stand corrected
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:15 PM
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26. If she's trying to undercut Reid, shouldn't she be a hero around here?
She's publically disagreed with Reid twice in two days. I wonder if she's speaking for herself, or on behalf of other Democratic Senators.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:31 PM
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29. Payback for Panetta, but she is right nonetheless. Hell has officially frozen
over when I find myself agreeing with LIEberman in a Skirt.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:36 PM
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30. Ugh. I hate agreeing with DiFi
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:37 PM
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31. Daine is becoming a pain in the gula lately
Whats her problem????

First moaning about being excluded on the pick
about Panetta and now Burris, its like a little
kid with a candy cone showing off how she has
candy than the others.

Need to put her ego in check.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 04:49 PM
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34. She's being consistent. Both situations are about process and protocol. nt
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