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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:19 AM
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Anne Hathaway To Obama: Explain Rick Warren
"I expect him to explain that choice of Rick Warren," Anne said. "I don't get it. All my friends and I were trying to figure it out, but we just can't. So I'd love that. But other than that, I expect nothing but the best."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/07/anne-hathaways-to-obama-e_n_156115.html

with video
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JohnnieGordon Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:21 AM
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1. This is gonna be good..
:popcorn:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:07 AM
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39. It's especially titillating for those of who aren't sure who she is
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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JohnnieGordon Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:16 AM
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49. She's considered Streep's primary competition for the Oscar this year
I guess that would make her at least a *little* famous, right?

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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:17 AM
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50. I agree with her point about Warren, but I've always thought she was a lousy actress.
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 01:20 AM by ErinBerin84
(though I hope she does know that Obama HAS commented on it, at least a little)
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:35 AM
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55. LOL yeah it took me a minute
I thought maybe she was politician, or a Governor selling a senate seat or something!

So many celebrities it's hard to keep them straight.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:15 PM
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142. Hmmm... I thought her & streep were Winslet's competition.
Did you see the reader or revolutionary road?
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JohnnieGordon Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:30 PM
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145. Yes, I guess it's all three, but Anne is definitely one of the favorites
And I haven't seen any of the movies they're nominated for yet. I usually don't see movies in the theater. When "Milk" finally comes to town, it'll be the first movie I've seen in the theater since "Children of Men" which I think was 2006.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:39 PM
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167. Yes I can't wait to see Milk n/t
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:22 AM
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2. Oooh!
:popcorn:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:23 AM
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3. scheming daemons to Anne Hathaway: Explain "The Devil Wears Prada"

Now *THAT* was a disaster.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:25 AM
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10. lol.
Or the McCain/Rick Davis Birthday party on the scammer ex boyfriend's boat (ok, I agree with her about the Warren thing, but I couldn't resist, lol. How did she not have ANY idea that all of that was going on?)
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:44 AM
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21. "The Devil Wears Prada" is a disaster?
Oh, of course it must be. After all, the stars of it don't hate gay people enough, right?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:46 AM
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23. No... it is a disaster because the movie sucked....
..what exactly does it have to do with gay people?
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:51 AM
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29. I'm sorry you don't have taste in movies.
Hopefully, you can go out and buy some. Just don't go to K-Mart and pick up the blue light special this time.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:23 AM
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77. It was a major hit.
The fact that you didn't like it doesn't mean it was a disaster. By every measure, it was an overwhelming success - oscar nom. for its lead actress, made Hathaway a household name, earned 10 times its budget, got 76% positive critical reviews. Some disaster. :eyes:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:13 AM
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83. And she won excellent reviews for her role in "Brokeback Mountain"
And has a decent shot at an Oscar this year, although either Streep or Winslet will probably win. I also think she was very good in the "Princess Diaries."

She has been a LONG TIME advocate and very public supporter of GLBT rights. She has integrity as well as talent.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:20 AM
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113. ...and I watched it over and over on HBO...
it's one of my favorite movies....
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:30 PM
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166. I own the movie on DVD, but I have never seen it.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:53 PM
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171. I think it appeals to women more than men...
but it is a great movie.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:08 PM
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139. It's not that our friend here has differing taste in movies
It's that the poster presents his/her personal taste as if it were fact.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:12 PM
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172. A Hit Play
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:32 AM
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80. I would have to agree with ya there.
I can't believe how many people on DU like the movie, lol. To each their own. Sure, Streep was good in it and it made money, but Streep is pretty good in everything she does. I think it was a disaster personally just because I thought the movie sucked, but others have their own opinions.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:48 AM
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93. Sucked? The movie was great, well, at least to me.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:37 PM
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136. I thought it was rather spiffy, myself
Perhaps it only sucked in your opinion.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:44 PM
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159. You = Deep End
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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:59 AM
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35. thats my favorte movie lol. nt
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revolve Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:08 AM
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74. But Amelie is so much better
and your avatar.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:29 AM
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102. Amelie was a GREAT movie.
I need to watch it again.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:03 AM
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65. Okay??! And what makes it so bad is that that the book was a good read..
It takes time and talent to turn a really good book into a flaming pile of crap that even Meryl Streep could barely save. (And she was FAN-TASTIC)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:14 AM
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85. I actually think it's a rare instance where the movie is better than the book
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:15 PM
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141. You are so right. The movie was definitely better.
In fact, I almost didn't see it because of the book but I'm glad I changed my mind.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:49 PM
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154. I found the book very plodding, among other things
But, I forgive books those "other things" if the pace is good.

The three main women in the movie were all excellent. I'm glad Emily Blunt won a Golden Globe.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:35 PM
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162. Oh, it was a good read and was my lead in to the Shopaholic books
which I admit I love.

But the movie (Prada) gave everything a drive and purpose the book lacked. The book seemed like poorly-executed revenge memoir.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 09:21 AM
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170. GASP -- Becky is WAY more fun than Andrea!!!
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:19 AM
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71. I just saw the film again and loved it.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:34 AM
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76. ROFL (You're kidding, right?)
Ms. Streep was nominated for an Oscar.

One of the best adaptations from a book that I have seen in a very long time.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:04 AM
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109. It received two Oscar nominations, and but you say it was a disaster?
Ummm, OK. It's a good thing you don't work for the Academy.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:01 PM
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138. You're kidding me - that movie was absolutely great. Meryl Streep rocked
now that "Bridal Wars" movie with Kate Hudson looks like it's gonna stink, probably why it's being released in January - the month of really sucky movies.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:12 PM
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140. I liked that movie.
But maybe it's cause I'm from NY.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:47 PM
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152. Have you been properly chastised yet??
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 04:50 PM by Number23
I know I'm enjoying the passion and sweat flying off of folks rushing here to respond to you as if they made the damn movie themselves. Or at least provided a sizable amount of their retirement funds to ensure the success of this mediocre film. :)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:53 PM
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155. Comparing Etheridge and Hathaway like you did is apples and oranges
If you honestly don't see the difference...

Posters are defending Hathaway against very strange attacks centering on her EX boyfriend and her right as a citizen to question teh President.

And, the poster said the movie was a "disaster," which it wasn't. That is a factual statement, not an opinion.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:03 PM
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157. Posters are defending this movie as if it was a joint collaboration between Buddha and Jesus
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 06:12 PM by Number23
I'm not attacking Hathaway and I haven't seen anyone else do it either. I don't care enough about Anne Hathaway (or just about anyone in the entertainment industry) to attack her.

SD posted about how bad "The Devil Wears Prada" was and I agreed. Somehow, that's lead to 300-post subthread with people criticizing SD for some outlandish reasons. Contrary to what some here like to think, there were ALOT of people who didn't like TDWP, including TONS of reviewers. Even the most cursory review of Rotten Tomatoes will tell you that. But the real question is -- Why is even THIS something that has to be made into a federal issue here?

But please, my questions are rhetorical and don't warrant a response -- especially from you. It truly is starting to feel as if you have nothing better to do but to trail folks around on this site like a lame puppy. Please go find someone else to hang off of.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:21 PM
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174. Fried chicken recipe flamewar redux
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carpe diem Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:23 AM
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4. he did explain it...
people may not have liked or agreed with his explanation, but, he did give one...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:24 AM
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:12 AM
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68. It was a BS rationale so she rejected it.
Not a twit after all.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:31 AM
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79. Well he gave his reasons. He doesn't have to keep doing it until
its to her satisfaction.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:29 AM
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116. True enough. He'll be the new Decider soon enough, and he won't be answering to anyone.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:25 PM
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135. which will rock
.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:48 PM
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146. 8 years of this shit wasn't enough? You want 4-8 years more?
This clown will shitcan Social Security just to watch it die, along with its recipients.

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JohnnieGordon Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:09 PM
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147. Shitcanning Social Security will ROCK
Please note the :sarcasm:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:27 PM
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149. There are those among us who would say that withOUT the sarc tag.
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JohnnieGordon Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:38 PM
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150. I know, that's why I included it!
I didn't know if you were familiar enough with me to know it was sarcasm. :)
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:17 PM
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173. WTF?!? Excuse me???
He will be answering to 300 million Americans. I'm tired of unacountable POTUSes.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:24 AM
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6. good for her.
I remember reading that her brother is gay.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:25 AM
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7. is she broken up with that Italian guy who met McCain on the boat?
(I owe DU my in-depth pop culture knowledge there)
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:27 AM
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11. yeah
I think they broke up right before he was arrested. And she has a new boyfriend...I saw it on E! News tonight (ok, I am going to hell for knowing all of this, lol).
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:33 AM
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14. no...
watching E! is hell already, isn't it :D
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:41 AM
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19. oh, it was, hehe.
I also remember reading an interview with Hathaway where she was bragging about how all the "charity" that her boyfriend does is an "aphrodisiac". Seeing how a lot of it ended up being a scam, I wonder if she is embarrassed about that lil quote now, lol.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:25 AM
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8. Bully for her.
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 12:27 AM by babylonsister
Is this the gal who was connected to her boyfriend who's in jail now for bilking billions of bucks? What's so special?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:04 AM
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37. She has a gay brother and she's speaking truth to power for him
one would think you'd be proud of her.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:09 AM
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41. Hey,darling, I was asking who she was, and after your finger-wagging,
I still don't know. Let's educate each other.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:12 AM
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46. Here, from downthread:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/2008-08-26-4126460439_x.htm

Celebrities are getting serious at the Democratic convention.
Sure, there are parties aplenty. But a contingent of Hollywood types under the Creative Coalition banner are gathering for sober-minded luncheons and forums to discuss issues facing the Democratic Party and the country.

At one such event, Danny Strong, an actor and screenwriter who is keeping a video diary of the DNC for The Associated Press, spoke with actress Anne Hathaway about what brought her to Denver.

___

AP: What issues are you most passionate about?

Hathaway: "That's a good question, and it should be a simple one. But right now I feel like there's so many aspects of our great nation which could use a little bit of help, or a lotta bit of help, that it's hard to pick just one. I think the most important thing is the economy. We need to figure out the housing crisis. We need to build up our middle class again. Right now, the disparity between the uber-rich and the uber-poor, it's worrying and it's not getting better. We need to focus on a way to just get our economy back, to get it back on track.

"Obviously the war is a very important issue to me. We need to get our troops home, and we need to get them home now. My own personal feelings about it is when the world is kind of perfect, and we have those two things -- when we're at peace and everybody has a good job -- although we should be working on these at the same time, I don't mean to imply otherwise, I'm really a big advocate for health care and of course my heart lies with education."

AP: What inspires you about Obama?

"I was kind of afraid of Obama the first time I saw him. I thought, I've been burned by guys like you before. I've been burned by politicians before that I wanted to believe in and just didn't live up to it. And I was afraid to trust him and I was afraid to have hope when I first kind of became aware of him. It was around the time that he gave his speech on race that I just said 'I can't deny how I feel about you, Barack Obama. I want you to be the president. I want you in the White House.'

"I think that not only can Barack cause change -- because that's where his heart lies -- as a true American success story, he understands how hard it is. And when he says that he will, when people come to him with problems, he's been there. I just heard the other day, he just paid off his student loans two years ago. And so when people talk about financial issues and the higher cost of education, he really gets it. So not only do I think he has the power, the temperment and the tremendous character that can cause change in the government, I think he's the sort of person that inspires us all to be our best selves.

"He inspires us to be the best Americans we can be. And I think if he's president -- when he's president, I should say -- we're going to find people changing on the inside. And once we all have hope for the future, I think you're going to find everyone's going to wake up and take control of this amazing moment where there's so many things that need help, and people will all be inspired to help."

AP: Do you think that the entertainment industry has a positive or negative effect on politics?

"I think the entertainment industry has all good intentions when we try to come out. The thing that is unfortunate is that some of us who are maybe a little recognizable, we've got to come out as private citizens and support our country in any way that we can ... .

"There's a media spin on it that we're all out of touch. How could we possibly have an awareness of what real Americans feel and think and need because we just ride around in limos and -- I don't know -- buy diamonds all day long? That's kind of the perception. But I don't know anyone like that. I'm certainly not like that. I'm a passionate American, and that's what I am first and foremost."



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:26 AM
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53. Now I'm smooshed. Thanks. nt
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:25 AM
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9. I've always liked her.
:)
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Boomerang Diddle Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:27 AM
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12. Who the hell is Anne Hathaway
and do we care what she wants?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:35 AM
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15. she was good on brokeback mountain
especially towards the end with the phone call .

she also dated some criminal who palled around with McCain.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:16 AM
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86. "she also dated some criminal who palled around with McCain"
So? She was no longer dating him. I hope people aren't suddenly being held accountable for the actions of their ex.

Hathaway is a very supportive and vocal Hollywood liberal.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:35 AM
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:54 AM
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82. She was Mr. Drisdale's assistant on Beverly Hillbillies
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:24 AM
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89. That was JANE Hathaway who was played by Nancy Kulp.
One great character actress ~~ Nancy Kulp.





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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:57 AM
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97. umm... duh?
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:53 AM
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94. She is an american citizen. That is enough reason for her to
ask questions of HER president elect. You arent being forced to care. She didnt hold a press conference to announce this. The media released it, not her.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:13 AM
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115. She is a peasant who needs to learn not to be so impertinent!
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:28 AM
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13. At least she makes these statements when she isn't promoting a movie.
She must have caught on to Madonna's subtlety.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:37 AM
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17. Anne Hatheway needs to explain her hanging out with GOP John McCain first!
on his 70th birthday. :shrug:


The story here! http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080929/berman_ames
Along with a video Report from Rachel Maddow.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:45 AM
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22. Oh yes, my my, Anne Hathaway is surely a repuke
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:49 AM
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27. Probably not. She just likes to hang out with them
and to be in love with smooth talking frauds.

Sounds like a personal problem to me.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:53 AM
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31. Fer chrissakes
attacking some actress for voicing her opinion that the Warren invite was a mistake?

Can I have whatever you're drinking?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:53 AM
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32. ..
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 12:54 AM by ruggerson
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:28 AM
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78. Whatever.
By that measure, Obama and McCain must be best buddies since there are tens of thousands of photographs of them hanging out together. I'm sure that means that Obama and McCain think exactly alike and share the same exact political ideologies, right?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:40 AM
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18. Drunken to Hathaway: Explain Ella Enchanted.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:47 AM
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25. I actually like that one

I wish some fairy god mothers would put a "curse" on my kids to force them to obey.

;-)
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:48 AM
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26. Ella Enchanted? Really?
It's a retelling of Cinderella. And it's actually full of social activism (Elf and Giant civil rights, for example). It's very similar to the version of Snow White that's really about the Welsh miners striking with the Evil Queen symbolizing the abuses of the Queen of England.

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:19 AM
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51. It's lame.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:21 AM
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52. Admit it, though... you would love to go on a date with a beautiful girl who is forced to obey.....

....

:evilgrin:
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:37 AM
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56. Isn't that every guy's dream?
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:54 AM
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62. No, not really
I don't even think I'd want to go on a date with a guy that was forced to obey. I'd rather go out with a guy that occasionally disagrees with me, even--just imagine the make-up sex.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:08 AM
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67. Lies!
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:48 AM
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92. Not heard of that one
Sounds interesting, any idea what it's called? And are you sure the Evil Queen didn't symbolise Thatcher? That would seem more relevant to a movie about the miners' strike.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:41 AM
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20. Why would anyone expect that Obama is obligated to explain and justify to them everything he does?
What, should he give a daily briefing to explain his decisions or should he simply present them for prior approval? He is going to be a president and not a puppet to have his strings pulled by all of the Democrats who think they know better what he should do than he does.
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:49 AM
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28. Maybe he's not obligated,
but then we're not obligated to vote for him next time if he's not willing to support us.

How many states were decided within 7% again?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:51 AM
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30. You know.. you're absolutely right

I think you should vote Republican next time.

...or 3rd party, which will have the effect of putting Republicans in office anyway.



I think you're MUCH more likely to have a sympathetic ear in the White House next time around if you do that.

I'm sure the GOP will listen to your grievances and work for your interests.



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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:56 AM
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34. Wake me up when I can marry
until then, why don't you pay my taxes, too? :)
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:03 AM
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36. What's the difference?
No rights or no rights? I'm sorry, which one says we're human beings? Oh, that's right.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:10 AM
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43. Exactly.

Which is why you should vote Republican next time.


Do it.



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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:41 AM
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59. When I've voted for Republicans it's been because
the Democrats were social conservatives. Illinois is a strange state--we breed some Democrats that are batshit crazy social nutcases--some of them are Obama's best friends (Rev. Meeks, for example). We've also had Republicans who have attempted to argue for "Democratic" social ideals--anti-death penalty, pro-gay rights, pro-infrastructure spending.

You might know that if you knew the state.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:44 AM
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60. SD, I guess you didn't get the memo, but logic is no longer permitted here.
Sadly, it has been replaced by irrational ranting and lashing out. Get with the program.
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:46 PM
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151. I feel bad for North Carolina's education system
Maybe we should start lobbying for some practical application of rhetorical argument and fallacies in North Carolina. At least the next generation would have some hope, then.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:28 PM
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163. You should feel bad, but not so much for North Carolina...(nt)
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:54 AM
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169. Oh. You must be a transplant.
The best class I taught to my freshmen was how to take an opinion essay or article and find the techniques and logical fallacies the authors used. Really great fun, and the kids got into it. Too bad not everyone has good teachers to do this for them.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:06 AM
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38. There's is no "maybe" he is not obligated.
Damn, the man hasn't even taken office yet and already people are threatening not to vote for him next time. It makes me wonder how Democrats ever win elections.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:09 AM
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42. He works for us. He is our employee.
He is indeed obligated. And if you watch the clip, she's not threatening to vote against him next time, she's pissed off because she has a gay brother who's just been dissed by a Democratic President and she's speaking truth to power. And she adds, other than that she's expecting "nothing but the best" from Obama.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:11 AM
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44. And he already HAS explained it.... you just don't like the explanation

But the fact that you don't like it doesn't mean he hasn't done it.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:14 AM
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48. She asked him to explain it, I didn't
I know why he's doing it and I think it's insane.
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:38 AM
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57. So you're saying that he intends to give up 7% of the voting public
and get re-elected. Now there's a strategy for you. Hey, maybe he'll get Idaho and Oklahoma next time, though.

As for the people who whine that he's not yet in office, I agree--he's not in office. However, he's made a lot of decisions, and whenever the choice came about on whether or not to support one of the most vulnerable minorities in the country, he's always chose not. This is no longer a single decision, it's a pattern--McClurkin, lack of support on Prop 8, lack of support on the other anti-gay amendments (AR, AZ, and FL), Kaine, minimizing gay visibility in the administration (there are a couple people, but minimal), pushing back DADT. Now, the fortunate thing is that I've never had any illusion that he was anything than somewhere between a heterosexist ass and a fence-sitting POS who might actually sign something if we could get a cowardly "Democratic" Congress to put stuff in front of him.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:56 AM
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63. Sure... because every GLBT in that 7% thinks EXACTLY like you!

And each and every one of them is going to vote Republican in 2012.

....because they're such a monolith.


:eyes:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:27 AM
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101. So Obama is the new "decider"? Interesting...
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:08 AM
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111. We loved to mock Bush about that, but the simple truth is that the President is the decider.
The difference is that if Bush ever listened to anyone it seemed to be only Cheney, but Obama will listen to many people and advisors and different opinions and then he will decide, making rational and well thought out decisions. Yes, he ultimately is the decider and unlike Bush he will openly admit that the buck stops with him and that he is responsible for his decisions. So let's not make a boogeyman out of a word when it was the tone and the attitude about how Bush used it that made it a negative.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:31 AM
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103. Well, I'd say that ANY elected official is obligated to explain themselves
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:05 AM
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66.  Thanks. I agree. Tough crowd. nt
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:03 AM
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73. Um, becaue we *elected* him. He works for us.
I would think that would be exactly why.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:54 AM
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96. Or, he could be just like monkeyboy and say "Im the decider person and
I make the rules." Ya want that, or do you want questions and answers to important issues?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:47 AM
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24. How presumptuous. nt
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:54 AM
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33. SHUT UP AND SING!!!~11
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:11 AM
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45. She can sing?
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mwei924 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:09 AM
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40. Looks like she'll have to do some explaining after people see Bride Wars.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:12 AM
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47. Obama to Anne Hathaway: I already did. You must've missed it. n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:32 AM
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54. i'm surprised at a lot of posts here--kicking her in the ass and being
satisfied with obama's need to hold hands with that bigot

well...this need to kiss across the aisle had harry reid arching his back today, warning obama he wasn't going to be his rubber stamp.

(hello, democrats? WE FUCKING WON--we don't need to kiss the republicon ass at this point!)
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:01 AM
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64. We're kicking her in the ass for presuming that Obama has to answer to HER

She's a celebrity... but she's not special beyond that.

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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:52 AM
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106. Pols are supposed to answer to citizens
Don't all U. S. citizens make up Obama's constituency? My, how presumptuous of a citizen to ask an elected official to explain something.

Oh well, to paraphrase B*sh, "Who cares what they think, anyway?"
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:48 AM
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121. Yep. She and the gay people she's advocating for need to
shut the fuck up! Wouldn't want to upset the cultists.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:41 AM
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58. lol social wedge issues
Regardless of my contempt for these kinds of trivialities, I will say that Rick Warren is a fucking sack of shit and Obama shouldn't have given him a position of any importance in the inauguration.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:51 AM
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61. Anne Hathaway is brilliant in "Rachel Getting Married" ... well, the whole cast is brilliant.
The whole movie is brilliant - wonderful script by Sidney Lumet's daughter. One of the best movies I've seen this year (along with "The Visitor" and "Slumdog Millionaire." "Milk" hasn't come to my backwater town yet!)

Hand-held camera work in "Rachel ..." is a little wooziness-inducing for some ... but get past that, and you'll be on a wild, wonderful ride with one of the most interesting fictional families you've probably seen on screen in a long time. And Hathaway KICKS ASS!

For those of you who, seriously, don't know who Anne Hathaway is ... I'd recommend going to see that movie. Or watch Brokeback Mountain again. She was so young and had to play a woman who aged way beyond her years, and Hathaway totally delivered.

And, frankly, I'd like Obama to (further) explain Rick Warren, too. The man is a bigot and a mysoginist who completely revolts me. Symbolically, not a good guy to be up there delivering the Big Prayer as one's administration of inclusiveness gets underway. Especially when there was a whole country filled with clerical choices for this event.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:19 AM
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87. I haven't seen it, but her performamnce has gotten RAVES
Go see "The Reader" when it opens this week. The book is terrific, and I've seen a few bootleg scenes. Winslet may beat Streep this year!
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:13 AM
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69. She's a great actress
I was very impressed with her in the Devil Wears Prada. But she should stick to acting.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:18 AM
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70. further explanation needed...
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 02:19 AM by firedupdem
sort of like the bill ayers thing. He'd explain it and they would keep saying we need the full extent of that relationship and he'd explain it again.

No explanation is going to fix the anger.



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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:38 AM
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72. I love Anne Hathaway, that is all n/t
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:19 AM
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75. Smalll to Anne Hathaway: Explain dating a minor league Italian Madoff,
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 03:20 AM by smalll
who's currently in prison for fraud. :shrug:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:41 PM
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168. That is truly funny
She hangs out with McCain and that FUCKING DIRTBAG and has the audacity to question Obama on the NON-ISSUE with Warren.

Listen. I'll be AT the Inauguration and am considering turning my back to Warren when he talks.

I was definitely going to turn my back, but since some assholes here on DU thin that since I'm straight that I have no clue on GLBT rights (which I have done years worth of grassroots efforts since 1986), now I'm thinking that turning my back doesn't matter a tinker's damn to the people who think I'm not worthy enough.

And Anne Hathaway, who I love, is trying to prick another nail in this NON-ISSUE about some asshat nobody really cares about who will do some boring, uncontroversial fucking prayer this former-Catholic agnostic could give a rat's shit about...
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:53 AM
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81. My, my, even Shakespeare's wife has an opinion on Rick Warren
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 07:54 AM by socialdemocrat1981
I wonder what her husband thinks. Will he write a new play about it? He's long overdue a new play -it's been about 500 years since his last one
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:19 AM
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88. She is actually related to that Anne Hathaway -- or so I've read
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:13 AM
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84. She has integrity as well as talent -- I wish more people were like her
Two thumbs up!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:26 AM
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90. Anne Hathaway?
:boring:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:43 AM
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91. He already has:
Obama Defends Warren Choice

December 19, 2008

Calling on Americans to "come together, even though we may have disagreements on certain social issues," President-elect Barack Obama on Thursday defended his choice of conservative evangelical the Rev. Rick Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration, a choice that had angered supporters of Obama who see the minister as intolerant to gays.

"We're not going to agree on every single issue, but what we have to do is be able to create an atmosphere where we can disagree without being disagreeable, and then focus on those things that we hold in common," Obama said during a Chicago news conference.

"There are going to be a wide range of viewpoints that are presented, because that's what America is about," he said. He noted that veteran civil rights leader the Rev. Joseph Lowery, co-founder of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, would also speak at the inauguration.

more: http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/hc-obamawatch1219.artdec19,0,2541209.story
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:37 AM
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105. Obama gave an extraordinarily LAME response.
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 09:38 AM by polichick
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:01 AM
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107. That was his response. Do you beleive that was not the real reason?
:shrug:
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:03 AM
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108. Yes, I believe that was not the real reason.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:16 AM
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112. Neither do I
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:33 AM
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118. imo it was a bullshit answer that didn't address legitimate questions...
...about bigotry, Dominionism, etc.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:49 AM
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122. I didn't even know about the Domionism until you posted about it
Thanks! Scary stuff.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:26 PM
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131. It really is scary - something he shares with Psycho Sarah. :/
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:20 PM
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143. Yes, I believe that was not the real reason. n/t
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:10 AM
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114. That was not an explaination
It was a rationalization that did not address the disagreable and sladerous rhetoric of the man Obama is giving honor to. Warren is the king of disagreeable speech, vicious rhetoric, and attacks on good Americans. Obama in no way addressed why he thinks giving reward to a man who calls those with whom he disagrees 'nazis' and pedophiles. He did not address the extreme disagreeablitiy of Warren's tactics, his words, his actions. He did not explain what he thinks he gains by declaring Warren's rhetoric level acceptable. He did not address Warren's attacks at all. He did not.
His rationalization was and is fully personal. About Obama. Not about the people. Doing harm to others for one's personal jollies shows a rotten set of priorities in a public servant.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:49 AM
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123. Exactly. Thank you. nt
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:14 PM
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148. Thanks for posting this... maybe Anne has an email address
This Warren issue has been batted around for a month and I'm glad she is finally interested. Tell her to say hi to John McCain. :puke:

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:54 AM
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95. I'm Really Not Worked Up About All This
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 08:54 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
But how does all this sniping at Anne Hathaway differ from the sniping at Freak Republic when an actor or actress publicly disses or disagrees with Bush*. "The Devil Wears Prada" was ok. It reminded me of "The Nanny Diaries" or vice versa.

As for the pick of Warren ,as someone who was raised in the Baptist church his views don't surprise me. As a Christian I'll leave it to Christ to judge what's in our hearts. What does disturb me about Warren is his outspoken support for Prop 8 and his mean spirited remarks about gay folks...
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:57 AM
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98. I agree with her points, and applaud her for answering honestly.
But, I still think the Devil Wears Prada sucked, it has nothing to do with her opinion.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:08 AM
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99. It Was OK. It Wasn't Awful. I Liked "The Nanny Diaries" Better
But I'm not a movie critic.

Movies to me are like food. Unless it's absolutely awful or great I don't get worked up about it.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:22 AM
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100. He HAS explained it.....
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:36 AM
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104. That was a LAME answer.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:04 AM
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110. It was a BRILLIANT answer.....
... wait ... are you talking about me or him? lol

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:32 AM
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117. Not you. :)
I thought he dodged the important issues of Warren's bigotry and Dominionist beliefs.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:44 AM
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119. and after Obama explains Warren, maybe Hathaway will explain Raffaello Follieri
NEW YORK, June 24 (Reuters) - An Italian businessman who had been the long-time boyfriend of actress Anne Hathaway was arrested on Tuesday on charges of operating a fraudulent real estate scheme that he claimed was linked to the Vatican, U.S. authorities said.

Raffaello Follieri, 29, was charged with conspiracy, wire fraud and money laundering in a criminal complaint unsealed on Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Manhattan. He was expected to appear in court later in the day…

Follieri is accused of operating a scheme in which he led investors to believe that he had close connections with the Vatican that enabled him to buy the Catholic Church’s unwanted U.S. real estate properties at a discount, according to federal prosecutors and the FBI…
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:47 AM
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120. Why the attempted tearing-down of a celebrity ally?
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 11:48 AM by LostinVA
This isn't Ann Coulter. It's Anne Hathaway.

Are you held accountable for everything your Ex does?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:50 AM
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125. Who cares? Obama is an ally to me, too and I see enough tearing down of him
around here. That's not saying that everything he does is right.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:26 PM
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130. But Anne Hathaway ISN'T tearing him down, and she's an ally to all liberals
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:50 AM
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126. FAIL
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:50 AM
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124. Uh-oh. Someone who cares more about her principles and loved ones than a politician
Tear her down, immediately!!!11!
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:51 AM
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127. Free country, she can certainly speak on anything she wants
Good for her
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:12 PM
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128. All politics aside for a moment
Anne is a really good actress. So there.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:16 PM
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129. I don't get it either, Anne.
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 12:17 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
Thank you for speaking out. :loveya:
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:29 PM
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132. Only thing that needs to be said
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:03 PM
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134. Hmmm. I wonder what will happen if I click that little guy with a red X on him?
Let's try it and see!
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 05:04 PM
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156. Ignore is a tool of the weak and simple-minded. Use at own peril {nt}
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:29 PM
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133. Good..the more people who shine
a light on the ugliness of what comprises rick warren's view, the better.

National dialogue, baby.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:57 PM
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137. I am glad she is taking a stand.
I would like to know as well.

Rick Warren is a huge mistake, and I am surprised that the feminists and scientists on this board aren't as upset about it as the GLBTs, because collectively we have ALL been thrown under the bus, in favor of a bigoted preacher who wants nothing less than society backing up about 120 years.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:22 PM
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144. I thought that she was underrated in "Brokeback Mountain". She was great
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 02:22 PM by LisaM
but overshadowed by Michelle Williams, Heath Ledger, and Jake Gyllenhaal. She also completely aced (as someone else mentioned) the scene with the phone call at the end. If you've read the short story, you'll see that she completely captured it.

She has been a gay activist. I saw her on "The Tonight Show" last night. She was talking about how her family was trying to be socially conscious by limiting their own Christmas presents to $50 and giving more to charity.

She may fall short at times, but her heart is definitely in the right place. And I have to confess to a secret liking of both "Princess Diaries" movies. I just like them.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:48 PM
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153. That scene? NAILED IT
I like the "Princess Diaries," too (not the second one -- she NEVER would have fallen for that guy).
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:32 PM
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161. Maybe not, but given the available choices
I think she made the right one. She didn't exactly hit the jackpot in "Brokeback" or "Prada" either. Of course, they were all better than the dude in the first "Princess Diaries", the guy who tried to shack up with her in the beachhouse.
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Hellataz Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:27 PM
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158. What if Obama has a plan to help people like Warren see our side more clearly through inclusion?
Maybe if Obama just came right out and explained how and why he made his choices it would prove to do nothing but undermine his intentions. I know that's putting a lot of faith into Obama. But I sincerely think he is trying (in a sense) to manipulate the other side, not in a bad way, but in a way they might be open to because he came at with with civility and respect. People want to make this issue so black and white, but it's not. Perhaps Obama has learned from the past that fighting with the intolerant wont getting them to change their views, but treating with with understanding and kindness will. Maybe most of us don't have the patience to take this high road, but I think he does and for people to demand an explanation will only serve to make themselves feel better but not actually solve the problem.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:19 PM
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160. OK I went to change.gov
And here is what it says

Expand Hate Crimes Statutes: Obama and Biden will strengthen federal hate crimes legislation, expand hate crimes protection by passing the Matthew Shepard Act, and reinvigorate enforcement at the Department of Justice's Criminal Section.


Support for the LGBT Community
"While we have come a long way since the Stonewall riots in 1969, we still have a lot of work to do. Too often, the issue of LGBT rights is exploited by those seeking to divide us. But at its core, this issue is about who we are as Americans. It's about whether this nation is going to live up to its founding promise of equality by treating all its citizens with dignity and respect."
-- Barack Obama, June 1, 2007


What is it about Obama that what he says is not as important as what anybody he ever associated with in any way for any reason says? Geez!

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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:38 PM
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164. Closest I got.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:20 PM
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165. Lesbian couple invited on Inaugural Whistle Stop Tour
"Today the 2009 Presidential Inaugural Committee announced the names of 16 families who will join President-elect Obama and Vice President-elect Biden on their Whistle Stop Tour to D.C. the Saturday before the inauguration. Lesbian couple Lisa Hazirjian and her partner Michelle have been invited to join the Whistle Stop Tour and appear onstage with Obama and Biden during events."

http://www.buzzflash.net/story.php?id=85819

People too busy bitching about Warren to see Obama doesn't discriminate about who he calls a Family
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