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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:02 PM
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Both Kennedy AND Byrd? What the fuck?
Yeah, Kennedy has cancer and Byrd is old..... but that's one Hell of a coincidence. :evilfrown:
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:03 PM
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1. Yeah, that's some freaky shit
Within minutes of each other. I think Teddy is very, very ill and they have made it out to be better than it really is.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:04 PM
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2. LIke they were holding on for this day or something......
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:14 PM
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8. Bless their lion hearts! nt
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:04 PM
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3. The emotional and physical toll of a big day like this
is bound to be hard on people in ill health to begin with.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:04 PM
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4. Perhaps just too much for them, the events today. Maybe they
were off their routines and exerted themselves too much.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:04 PM
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5. according to news reports, Byrd got very upset about Kennedy's seizure.
i'm monitoring google news for the latest.

This from Fox:
Sen. Ted Kennedy suffered a seizure and was taken away by emergency medical personnel during President Obama's celebratory inaugural luncheon on Tuesday.

A Republican House leadership member told FOX News that Kennedy had a seizure at the end of the lunch, the seizure lasted a while. He was taken out on a wheelchair and had to have his legs lifted up to get him out of the room.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:06 PM
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6. not really.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:11 PM
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7. Was there a food taster on hand??
I'm wondering now:scared:
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:29 PM
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10. Senator Kennedy has a malignant brain tumor. I watched my husband have
several seizures. He had his first in early June - had brain surgery but they did not get all of the tumor and he died on Dec 19th, 1991, six months later.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:14 PM
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9. Didn't they fought hard for the civil rights movement?
maybe they just couldn't take the emotional effect of this day.... maybe they see this as the culmination of what they fought so hard for...

I have them both in my prayers.. : (
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:45 PM
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13. huh? Byrd fought hard against the civil rights movement. nt.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:00 PM
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15. Byrd on the issues:
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 04:01 PM by Bucky
Current stands (a mixed bag, but almost as much liberal as conservative)
* Voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
* Voted YES on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
* Voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
* Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
* Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
* Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
* Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
* Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
* Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
* Voted YES on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)
* Voted YES on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)

* Rated 20% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
* Rated 22% by the HRC, indicating a mixed record on gay rights. (Dec 2006)
* Rated 82% by NAACP, indicating a mixed record on affirmative-action. (Dec 2006)


Looks like he blows with the winds a little, or at least has gotten more progressive over time.

He has officially apologized for opposing civil rights in the 60s, including help filibustering the landmark 1964 bill, and for voting for the Patriot Act

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0228-07.htm
Byrd Says He Regrets Voting For Patriot Act

WASHINGTON - Sen. Robert Byrd, the dean of the Senate and its resident constitutional expert, counts only a few regrets in his 48-year Senate career: filibustering the 1964 Civil Rights Act, voting to expand the Vietnam War, deregulating airlines.

Add to the list a new one from this century: supporting the anti-terror USA Patriot Act after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

"The original Patriot Act is a case study in the perils of speed, herd instinct and lack of vigilance when it comes to legislating in times of crisis," the West Virginia Democrat said Monday on the eve of the Senate's final votes on its renewal. "The Congress was stampeded, and the values of freedom, justice and equality received a trampling in the headlong rush."

This week as he embarks on a re-election campaign for a record ninth term, Byrd, 88, will vote "no" on renewing 16 major provisions of the act due to expire March 10. He argues that even with new privacy protections added this year by the Bush administration and its allies, the law has given the government too much power to pry.

"This new proposal would erase too many of our freedoms guaranteed to the American people," Byrd added in a statement to The Associated Press. "In essence, this legislation says that the Bill of Rights is right no more."

His position allies him with Sen. Russell Feingold, a relative Senate newcomer who nonetheless foresaw potential problems with the original Patriot Act before Byrd or any other member of the Senate. In 2001, Feingold, D-Wis., cast the lone vote against the new terror-fighting law.

"I wish I had voted as he did," Byrd lamented on the Senate floor.

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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:37 PM
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11. I heard Byrd became very upset because he was sitting right next to Kennedy
when it happened and that's why he left.
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:39 PM
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12. ABC (Charles Gibson) just reported a source close to Kennedy that he is in "stable condition".
Sorry, can't remember the name of the source.
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:48 PM
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14. If Jesse Helms was still alive...he'd probably had collapsed too...
the racist asshole...
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:02 PM
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16. why isn't CNN saying anything about Byrd?
They're only mentioning Kennedy.
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