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Fahrenheit911 Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:18 AM
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Staffers for Front-Runner Dean Seen Chasing After Clark
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 08:19 AM by Fahrenheit911
http://news.google.com/url?ntc=0M2A0&q=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-clark8jan08,1,111900.story%3Fcoll%3Dla-headlines-nation
PETERBOROUGH, NH In a sign that Wesley K. Clark's presidential campaign may be gaining ground in New Hampshire, Howard Dean's staffers on Wednesday staked out Clark's campaign appearances, handing out fliers...
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Clark Campaigner Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:20 AM
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1. expect more of these kinds of tactics
from Dean and his people.





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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:21 AM
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2. Gee, are you a Clark supporter?


I hadn't heard!
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:24 AM
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3. What does one being a Clark supporter have to do with it. . .
. . .the Dean campaign has even admitted to passing the fliers. This is not some untrusted source that Dean supporters can bash saying that the Dean campaign is passing the fliers. . .its the Dean campaign. LOL
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:29 AM
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6. So?
What's your point?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:32 AM
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7. My point is the Dean campaign is admitting to the fliers, so. . .
. . .the fact that a Clark support said we can expect more of this is irrelevant. Also don't forget Howard Dean ran running to Terry McAuliffe because the other candidates were not playing nice. . .now he is doing the same thing. It seems poor little Howard needs to get a grip.
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Zinnola Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:15 AM
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36. Dean did not run to McAuliffe
That is a lie. He made a "statement" to the press that McAuliffe is not reigning in his detractors that were making heavy slams aganist him. If you believe Dean ran to McAuliffe please supply links and proof.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 12:13 PM
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38. We are talking about 2 people handing out a paper - WHY?
"On Wednesday afternoon, two Dean volunteers stood in the frigid cold outside of a Peterborough "Conversations with Clark" handing out a two-sided opposition paper on Clark. On one side it read "WESLEY CLARK: PRO-WAR"-the other side, "WESLEY CLARK: REAL DEMOCRAT?" And then, in a box at the bottom, it was printed: Paid For by Dean For America."
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 06:35 PM
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42. Two of Dean's National Spokesman Have Admitted to This
Hell, they were two of the ones handing this puerile shit out.

Give it up. You might as well default to the standard Dean supporter talking point, "But this isn't an attack!"

:eyes:

DTH
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 12:43 PM
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39. FINE! Dean Whined To The Press About How Terry Should Call Off "Attacks".
And then continues attacking the others just as he has since the beginning of his gaffe prone Campaign.

Is that better? :D
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 01:55 PM
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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 06:32 PM
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41. Well, if they're lookin' for crowds, a Clark appearance is the place
To find them.

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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:28 AM
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5. This is bad because????
I know that Clark as a candidate, has little substance (hence his refusal to participate in debates) , but if a few fliers are going to change supporters minds then your candidate is in DEEP trouble. There is nothing unethical about passing out fliers.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:41 AM
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11. Nothing unethical just hypocritical coming from the whiner n/t
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:44 AM
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12. Exactly. . .
:kick:
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:06 AM
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18. That's right...totally hypocritical.
He started the fight then goes home babbling when the fight comes to him...if another campaign passed out fliers under his nose...he'd run home tears. Tit for tat...
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:13 AM
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34. I bet if the Clark campaign
had done it, the Dean supporters would be shrieking bloody murder.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 06:45 PM
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44. Clark has little substance, and has refused to appear in debates?
I'm sorry... but I've never quite viewed it that way.

He did not participate in the Iowa televised and radio debates of the past week because a) he is not competing at all in Iowa, and b) he was not invited to the debates (see "a").

As far as the "substance" issue goes, well... it would be hard to take a look at Clark's resume and career and say he is without substance. How do you mean that, exactly?

- Jennifer
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:37 AM
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9. "tactics from Dean and his people"
Geez...delusions of grandeur. :eyes:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:40 AM
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10. No one is making this up the Dean campaign is admitting it. . .
. . .even after Howard went running to McAuliffe accusing the other candidates of not playing nice. Talk about hypocrisy.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:51 AM
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13. I realize that
"Clark Campaigner"'s flair for the dramatic was making me laugh.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:54 AM
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14. Dramatic: Hardly, True: Yes. . .
:kick:
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:55 AM
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15. OK, that makes two of you
And a smidge of paranoia in there, too.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:59 AM
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16. Paranoia? LOL How are we paranoid. . .the Dean campaign admitted it!
Denial is not a river in Egypt. Please explain to me how pointing out that the Dean campaign admitted to circulating the flier is paranoia. What is it about Dean that makes some of his supporters lose all parts of rational thought?
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Soul On Ice Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:09 AM
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31. Notice your checkmate!
Good show, sister for Clark.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:03 AM
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26. Not Surprized in the least ,C C !
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 10:03 AM by GalleryGod
"Pro War"? How about Pro My Country whilst the yangster who would be Guv'Nuh was rich boy skiing!
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Clark Campaigner Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:09 AM
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30. Don't talk about Dean's skiing expeditions...
He might run and tell Terry McAuliffe!
:eyes:





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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 06:46 PM
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45. More GOP talking points eh ?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:26 AM
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4. dupe thread
the original is kicking around here somewhere.
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Soul On Ice Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:32 AM
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8. I like this part:
Clark aides suggested the apparent momentum may have been one factor that prompted the Dean campaign to distribute the leaflets. "The Dean campaign can undoubtedly feel the Clark campaign's hot, minty breath on the back of its neck," quipped Clark senior strategist, Chris Lehane.

Clark said of the fliers: "I guess that's what professional politicians do."

Thanks for the post!

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:02 AM
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17. Clark & Dean
I don't see a problem handing out flyers by anybody anywhere.

That isn't even close to statements made by some of the candidates saying some of the other candidates aren't qualified to run the country, or sided with Pubs, etc.

I'm glad to see a closer race between Dean & Clark. It helps put the Washington "Professional" politicians farther behind!
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Soul On Ice Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:11 AM
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32. Clark & Dean
may just knock each other off the radar and in will slide Kerry next November! Not that that's a bad thing...
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:37 AM
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19. all this stupid tit for tat infighting is lame
this is why I don't bother to read candidate posts most of the time

handing out fliers! oh my god, the HORROR!

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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:38 AM
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20. *Yawn*
BFD
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:46 AM
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21. Their feelings are hurt, you should be more understanding
What if this was happening to YOUR candidate? ;)

"In addition to rising poll numbers, Clark has been drawing larger crowds in New Hampshire. A fire official in Peterborough ordered campaign staffers to close the doors to an auditorium where Clark was appearing after more than 600 people crowded the room, perhaps a hundred of them standing.

A relatively wealthy town of well-educated voters, Peterborough is in a part of the state where Dean is especially strong, and Clark staffers were delighted with the turnout.

On Wednesday, in Keene, campaign organizers at the last minute relocated their last event of the day from a junior high school to the high school, in order to make room for a larger crowd.

About 1,000 people showed up and still couldn't fit in the auditorium. A month ago, Clark was drawing crowds of about 100 people."
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:48 AM
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22. Clark had nowhere to go but up
It wasn't like the took the political world by storm when he declared. I'm just amazed that it has taken this long.

The point is that if you let the actions of a few people define Dean's campaign, you're doing a real disservice to yourself and your fellow political activist.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:49 AM
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23. He is going up alright. . .
. . .he is breathing down Dean's neck.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:50 AM
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24. Fine with me
It's about time we had some competition. We were getting complacent with all those leads in early primary states. Now we have a reason to step it up again.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:55 AM
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25. If being within 25 points is breathing down one's neck....
...then, yes, he is.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:07 AM
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29. It's about perception and Momentum
and if there is a feeling in NH that there is a migration to Clark, it will spread. That's the fun in NH.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:06 AM
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27. It's not a few people. It is the Dean campaign.
This attack was authorized and paid for by Howard Dean. (Where do I get one of those union labels?)
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:12 AM
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33. Bzzzzt, integirty has been compromised.
Specify and describe the attack, and prove it was authorized and paid for by Howard Dean.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 06:36 PM
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43. Dean Is Responsible for His Campaign and Official National Spokespeople
That is a complete and absolute given.

You cannot believe that Dean did not approve this in light of who is hawking these weak-ass fliers.

DTH
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Soul On Ice Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:13 AM
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35. Oxymoron:
"It's not a few people. It is the Dean campaign."


:yourock:


(You can get the union label from the union 'management', because the union workers surely weren't involved...see other threads and remember that Google is your friend.)

:pals:
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:06 AM
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28. What's J.A.R.B. ??
:shrug: Just Another Rich Boy

GOP has theirs-apparently WE have ours.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:52 AM
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37. That figures.
Dean's campaign is looking like Bush's more and more every day.
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