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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:54 PM
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Mike Malloy has a good take on the Stimulus Package Vote
Not one dime from this money goes to any congressional district where a Repuke (or the 11 DLC/Blueballed Cowards) voted against it.

I believe that's more than fair. Fuck 'em. And fuck the idiots who keep sending them back to DC.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:56 PM
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1. There's one little hang-up with it, though.
Say 45% of a population in a Repub district voted for Democrats and for Obama, while the other 55% voted for McCain and the Repubs. Do we abandon the 45% by virtue of their location by cutting off their stimulus money?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:04 PM
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2. I would say that if such a district didn't go for a majority of Democrats in this last election.....
....then they probably never will. Unless they get pissed off at their Repuke "representative" for fucking up the stimulus vote, and vote his (or her) ass out in 2010.

As I said though, if the already fucked economy before the election wasn't enough to make them vote in their own interests, will an even more fucked economy, due to their Repuke congresscritter be enough to push them over the edge?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:05 PM
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3. I see your point. Some of the districts won't flip unless there was a Second Great Depression.
But that's one point we don't want to find ourselves in economically speaking.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:37 PM
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4. Though I like Mike Malloy, that is why it is a good idea that he isn't president.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:38 PM
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5. No that's actually a really stupid idea and Malloy is probably joking
Obama is President of the United States, not president of the people who voted for him.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:09 PM
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6. Thats a Republican tactic.
Those people don't stop being Americans in need of assistance just because their Congressperson is an asshole.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:11 PM
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7. That's asinine.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:08 AM
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12. Right because bending over backwards to include the ideas of the party that's had it wrong
for nearly 30 years is really working for us. Right?

:sarcasm:

Regards
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:20 AM
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15. It's not about the party, it's about the people who would suffer because of it.
There's no need to punish them for the stupidity of their representatives.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 12:20 PM
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19. What does that have to do with pretending that discredited ideas have any merit?
Because that's what's going on right now. We let the Repukes go on and on and on about their idiotic tax cuts as if we don't already know that said tax cuts won't work. They take out perfectly good things to include more of these stupid tax cuts and then the Republicans once again unanimously vote against it.

Meanwhile in the attempt to "not punish people for the stupidity of their representatives" as though the people of that district had nothing to do with putting the fuckwits in the office in the first place, we're punishing everyone else by stalling what may be halfway decent legislation. If they want to vote against it fine then don't ask for any of it. Let them keep trying their tax cuts and see how that works out for them.

Regards
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:27 PM
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23. Millions of democrats would fall under this ridiculous proposal.
You're a sick person if you agree with this.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:55 PM
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27. No sicker than the idiot representatives.
I'm not saying I agree. I just don't think it's the worst idea in the world. I've heard worse.

Regards
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:06 PM
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25. So you're perfectly fine with punishing the people who didn't even vote for the Rep, too?
Really?
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:58 PM
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28. How'd that bipartisanship work out again? n/t
Regards
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:50 PM
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29. You're not answering the question or justifying your position.
Why do you want to punish people who didn't even vote for the scumbag?
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:40 PM
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30. Why do you want to reward people who do not cooperate?
How exactly is this bending over backwards supposed to help the greater cause. The Republicans don't want the stimulus then they don't they don't need it. Let them explain to their constituents why there's nothing coming their way. It's called accountability. It's not punishment to withhold something one voted against.

Regards
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:49 PM
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31. People need help now. There are families out there that are suffering.
To say that you would deny aid to them to make a political point is just plain cruel.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:59 PM
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32. To make a political point? Right now not a damn thing is being done because the Republicans are
Edited on Fri Jan-30-09 12:00 AM by Raineyb
obstructing. They don't want the stimulus. So you're going to what force them to take it? It's not punishment to not force someone to take something they don't want. How hard is that to understand?

REgards
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:44 AM
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34. You're saying the families who didn't vote for the Republican don't want it?
Wow.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 02:03 AM
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37. The representative is representing his district. If he's not doing what the people want it's their
job to let him know.

That's how our system works does it not?

Regards
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:20 PM
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8. A better idea would be take out the Republican incentives that their house put in,
if they don't want to play ball, we will just take it away and play with people who do.
Hell, after all they just flushed the country down the drain over the last 8 years.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:11 AM
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13. Yes. If they want input, they had better vote in favor of the entire bill. (nt)
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 02:11 AM by w4rma
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:20 PM
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9. Um no
I live in a red state. And I don't like this idea at all.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:39 PM
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10. Excellent Mike!
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:53 PM
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11. Nonsense.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:14 PM
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21. You must have a republican congressman in your district!
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 01:16 PM by LaPera
:rofl:
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:05 AM
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33. No, one of the Democrats who voted against. Just as bad.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:17 AM
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14. Mike exposed the false report by Caroline Lochhead of the SF Chronicle....
She quoted a right wingnut site saying that $4+Billion of the stimulus package would go to ACORN. Of course it's a lie.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:37 AM
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17. Wow, the Chronicle really messed up.
They deserve to have egg on their face. That is either a very bad case of lazy report, or just a case of being completely dishonest.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:21 AM
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16. That's a terrible idea.
It's punishing the constituents unfairly. And you might say 'well they voted for the bastard!' Well, what about the people who DIDN'T? They deserve to suffer too?
How would you have felt if Bush did something like this?
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:42 AM
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18. Thing is that might be in his own state but the sentiment was a good one. The fact this would >
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 07:49 AM by cooolandrew
effect Mike himself shows he was only joking. But any Republican voter might of got nervous hearing that and that made me smile a lot. The basic message he was getting across is Republican voters should know the consequence of their actions, in an immediate way. Maybe not this way but it would show there is balance in the world if they felt the pain they caused. I think Mike gets misunderstood at times as he isn't always being literal but more satirical.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 12:22 PM
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20. Sounds like something Bushco would do
I'm tired of that shit.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:20 PM
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22. That will make the people from those districts love us and want to vote for us. n/t
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:51 PM
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24. While we're at it...
Lets just expel all the red states from the Union.

:sarcasm: (for the impaired)
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Joiwind Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:04 PM
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26. This Is a very real concern
I live in one of the reddest counties in a very red state. I wrote our GOP Congressman and asked him to support the Stimulus Bill, and got back a long lecture on the efficacy of tax cuts.

I don't see any Federal money coming into this district for a long, long time. If was working in defense, where it appears most of the jobs paying more than $30K a year are concentrated, I'd be shaking in my boots. If I were Obama passing out the defense largesse, I'd make sure a lot of it went to Groton CT or California, and screw NW Florida, Georgia, or Oklahoma.

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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 01:47 AM
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35. I live in one of those districts. I have never voted for the
repuke turd who calls himself this district's Congressman. Each time he runs he faces a new Democratic challenger with no money to take him on. Nevertheless, his percentage of the vote total has been shrinking because some people are finally waking up. I agree there are a significant number of voters who routinely vote against their own self interest because they don't know any better, but I don't think districts like this one should be punished because the Dems have yet to run a strong enough candidate or put up the funds to run a competitive race.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 01:54 AM
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36. Malloy was absurd on this. You don't have to explain yourself.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 02:08 AM
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38. I'm hoping that one good thing to come out of all this will be that
the Dem Congressional campaign committee will start putting some money into districts like this one and pick off some of these sleazebags. It's disheartening that they write off districts where they could win with a solid candidate. Obama took this county 55 to 42.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 02:14 AM
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39. I hear you. I live in a district where we had one of the congressional Dems...
...who voted against this bill. The sad thing is, I live in a solid blue district, where he didn't even have to pander, yet he voted against Obama. My sincere wish is that my district offers us another Dem for this congressional seat, because Cooper, is apparently a dumbass.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 10:49 AM
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40. Bad idea. The President should never play politics with the
American people's lives by trying to screw people just because they're represented by Republicans. He's President of the entire country.

A better idea would be to make sure the residents of the states where Republicans voted against the stimulus package are well-informed that their elected Representative voted against their interests. And when the economy starts turning around, Dems need to keep impressing on people that the upturn their state is experiencing is in spite of their elected Reps who voted against all those new jobs they're seeing, and if they'd gotten their way their state would still be circling the drain.



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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 10:53 AM
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41. Has it exactly backwards. They get the stimulus and then their guy has to explain why he voted NO
They will all be voted out. Thelma Drake in Virginia was voted out after voting against the first version of Webb's extended GI Bill. She could explain all day that she voted for a later version, but she was sunk forever in a military community with her first vote.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 11:29 AM
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42. Sounds like a stimulus plan Rush Limbaugh would make up if he was on the other side of this. nt
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