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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:27 PM
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Does anyone seriously think that Obama lost out in the stimulus deal?
Let's see: Obama makes a big effort to reach out to Republicans: ignored.

Obama cuts a few minor items which were probably put in the stimulus bill specifically to be expendable. Republicans vote no anyway.

Obama gets to go out and say to the public "Well, I tried." The Republicans get to look like assholes for opposing a massively popular measure.

Obama 3, Republicans 0.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:32 PM
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1. I read a few articles this morning that were fun.
They pretty much indicated that the GOP wasn't ready to play nice. Love it, because it's true.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:35 PM
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2. May be. Only problem is the part where he gets out and say to the public,
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 02:36 PM by Mass
Right now, all I see on TV is M$M a*holes and GOPers saying he lost his first big battle, because the Dems refused to be bipartisan (a couple of exception like Frank yesterday on CNN). A load of crap, of course, but it is all there is on the media.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:04 PM
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3. When the dust settles, the newspapers are going to be "Democrats pass stimulus, Republicans oppose."
The Republican talking heads are whining because there was too much spending, or not enough, and they're coming off like children.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:15 PM
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4. Problem is Obama and the country are on the same page, Congress didn't get it yet,
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 03:16 PM by demo dutch
and that includes Pelosi
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:02 PM
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5. When Obama is Running for Re-election
he is going to be able to claim a long list of accomplishments, all of which were unanimously opposed by the House Republicans.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:12 PM
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6. The Wraith speaketh true. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:25 PM
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7. Those with
an agenda look for anything they percieve negative on Obama but are suspiciously quiet when Obama signs the Lilly Ledbetter Law..who wouldn't like that? :)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:48 PM
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8. How about American People 3 - Depression 0
At what point is this about the unemployed, those in danger of losing their homes and their health care and their problems?

I hope to God Obama is not playing games with that.

It's not about Obama, or the Dems in Congress or anything else. It's about the problems of We the People.

Cut the friggin games and get to work.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:50 PM
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10. I wish posts could be recommended
This is serious stuff
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:58 PM
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11. This is also true.
Although politics can't be taken out of the equation because it's Obama's political capital and his signature that gets stuff done. If he does the right thing and the Republicans are willing to work with him, great. If they slap his hand away, he still gets credit for having made the effort, and he still gets the right work done, with even more of the public behind him.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:50 PM
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9. All I see is Obama's support with Independents growing stronger everyday
I see a Reagan-Mondale map in Obama's re-election
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:15 AM
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13. And equally important I see it increasing
among moderate republicans. There is a small, but real, group of people who identify themselves as republicans that are not lock-step with what the party has become.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:07 AM
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12. Too early to tell
If the economy improves, the President can brag that he and congressional Democrats saved the day.

If it does not improve or gets worse, Republicans may have a winning issue at the polls in 2010.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:20 AM
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14. 9 days in and I think Obama knows exactly what he is doing.
I heard the Dems talking about this being a work in progress and that they will add money for infrastructure in conference. I think Obama has conveyed the urgency of this legislation.

I believe the Price is Right strategy is a work in progress:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/candide/2009/01/nate-silvers-price-is-right-co.php
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:24 AM
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15. The GOP does look stupid
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