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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:58 PM
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Is Robert Gibbs the WORST press secretary EVER?
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 03:02 PM by alwysdrunk
If not who was ever worse? I can't BELIEVE I'm missing fucking Ari Fliesher at this point. Him and McClellan might have been lying bastards but at least they were watchable!

How the hell did this guy get this job? I personally know 10 people who could do a better job that Robert Gibbs.

Finally, an Obama cabinet pick that I strongly disagree with. Am I in the poutrage club now?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:59 PM
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1. I think he's great.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:00 PM
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3. Me too...not sure what the problem is...?
:shrug:
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:02 PM
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13. How about the fact that he can barely fucking talk?
And his voice is weak as hell. He's fucking corny with all the baseball stuff. And he looks like he's intimidated by the reporters?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:03 PM
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17. He has a bad cold right now
He apologized for it earlier. He caught the cold from his 5 yr old.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:18 PM
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38. You seem to not understand a press secretaries job
they are not there to compete with Bill O'reilly, nor are they there to entertain you.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:02 PM
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83. They aren't? Doh. Nevermind then..
;)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:52 PM
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73. Those are all shallow, cosmetic criticisms.
Being too slick comes off as insincerity to many people.
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:56 PM
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76. Looking like he's scared of the reporters is shallow?
How is it wrong to want a guy with some fortitude up there?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:59 PM
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78. That's performance art.
It has nothing to do with the strength of what he says or the content of his responses. Just because you don't like the look on his face doesn't mean he has no fortitude.
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onefreespiritedchick Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:17 PM
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89. I was a little harsh about him yesterday
However, I realise everyone has their own speaking style and mannerisms. As long as he gets the point across, this is what matters. Perhaps a little more direct eye contact with the camera would help though. Otherwise, he's doing okay.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:28 PM
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105. Actually, he's brilliant by not giving the press-titutes anything to attack his boss with.
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 05:29 PM by InAbLuEsTaTe
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:00 PM
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5. Well I think he fucking terrible
What's great about him? Why do you think he's great?
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:09 PM
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29. Because he smacked down Hannity...
after one of the debates. Hannity was playing guilt by association against Obama, and Gibbs busted out with anti-Semitic quotes from a guy who had appeared on Hannity's show to spout BS about Obama's alleged guilt by association with terrorists. Gibbs is one of the few people who has managed to lay the smack down on Hannity, who typically bullies the living fuck out of people on his show.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:27 PM
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48. That's right! I just saw that a couple of days ago. He didn't even break a sweat, either.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:21 PM
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43. I like that he's not a slick parody of a spokesman.
I like that he's smarter than anyone else in the room.

I like his sense of humor which he uses on himself as often as on anyone else.

I like the way he's in control of what comes out of his mouth.

I like that in a laid back way, he gets his zingers in and people in the room laugh with him.

He will make mistakes. When you talk for a living, that just comes with the territory. But, I like the whole package and he reflects Obama's steady style very well, imo.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:00 PM
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7. +1.
He is making his points.

Substance over style.
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:18 PM
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39. I can respect substance over style
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 03:19 PM by alwysdrunk
And I'm not saying we should have a used car salesmanup there, but style does matter somewhat and he is seriously lacking there.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:45 PM
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64. Then we disagree.
I'll take actuality over perceived reality any time.

The Republics love style over substance.

It's all they got, and they're losing even that.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:17 PM
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36. Agreed. He actually answers question and isn't condescending
Someone just needs an exlax.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:59 PM
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2. Sober Up



:eyes:




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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:04 PM
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22. Whatever. Gibbs would probably do better if he had a few before he started
:D
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:04 PM
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102. I agree with you....I thought he was drunk being he a is always
drunk....
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:00 PM
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4. no dana was.
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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:01 PM
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8. me too...hes way too...passive or something? idk.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:01 PM
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9. Really, perhaps laying off the sauce would help
I can name a pile that have been worse, anybody in the last eight years and most especially Tony Snow.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:01 PM
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10. I love him.
I like that he's not slick, and that he's more 'down home' and 'real' than the lying spinsters Bush had.
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:01 PM
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11. So what if he says "Uh" a lot.
He doesn't look or sound like he is lying when his lips move. MAJOR improvement.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:03 PM
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16. he says "look" a lot too often, too. It makes it seem like he doesn't have anything to say.
He is TERRIBLE and a discredit to his boss.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:18 PM
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40. His boss says "look" a lot too. Did you not notice?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:44 PM
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62. Yes, he does. And he also says "The real question is..." when he doesn't like the question that was
asked.

It's a clever misdirection. I'm wondering if/when someone will say "No, the real question was the one I asked you, would you kindly answer it?"
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:06 PM
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85. and that's true, too. he got a pass today.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:46 PM
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65. now that you mention it..... true, another unconcious adoption of a cliche.
Obams says it in a just a little different tone of voice, however. His tone indicates he is trying to engage in a dialogue, not indicate "the way it is way." Perhaps The Commander in Chief needs to talk to his charge.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:01 PM
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81. "Look" is not a cliche and Gibbs is not Obama's charge. n/t
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:03 PM
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84. glibb....
hey, look, I would rather had a dressing-down from Obams than Emmanuel, you idiot.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:25 PM
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46. I get exactly the opposite impression. He has a lot to say
and he's choosing which bit to put out there.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:36 PM
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57. maybe he needs to get his feet on the ground then. sorry, never saw him before,
and don't know him, but he sucked. He can recover, but he sucked this morning.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:02 PM
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12. I just made a response post on another entry. He was AWFUL. eom.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:03 PM
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14. He actually offers real, thoughtful information. Get over it, and turn the channel to Fux if you
don't like his style. I'm a fan.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:03 PM
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15. To your final question.... yes.
I hereby induct you into the poutrage club. Reason: You did not cite one specific reason why you think Gibbs is the "WORSTpress secretary EVER".

If you're going to start tearing people down, even ONE specific piece of evidence should be provided.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:39 PM
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59. and then the reasons subsequently provided
were immaterial and silly.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:03 PM
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18. You don't strongly disagree with Vilsack?
Maybe your priorities are screwed up.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:04 PM
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19. No,That belongs to Dana Perrino and Ari Fleisher..
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:04 PM
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20. uh.. let... uh... me.... think....about.....uh.... that... uh... before... uh... I...uh...answser...
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nradisic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:04 PM
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21. I think Gibbs is great!
WTF? Gibbs is a vrey intelligent and eloquent press secretary after the hacks that Bush had....Tony Snow? Dana Perino? Gibbs is very good. He commands respect from the WH Press Corps.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:05 PM
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23. Have you listened to him when you were sober? (referring to your name)
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:05 PM
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24. BTW, I do respect your opinion and won't slam you for it.
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 03:06 PM by liberalmuse
I just happen to prefer someone low key and honest over someone who might be more 'sophisticated' and better at spin. I like his soft spokeness. I do get the impression that Gibbs does not care too much for Todd. Perhaps that is what has endeared me to him, LOL.
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byrok Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:05 PM
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25. Yes,
to your last question.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:06 PM
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26. Worst ever? No.
He could use fewer 'uhs' in his speech but I think he'll get better as he gets to know the press and relaxes.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:08 PM
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27. He's such a nice guy!
I like him. The press will actually be easier on someone they like. He can say "I can't comment" with the best of them too. AFTER that nightmare of Tony Snow and that Dana whasthername-and Ari Fleisher-propgandist minister, are you kidding? I like it that he's not slick. Slick usally means rotten to the core.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:09 PM
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28. He's not giving speeches...
...he's answering questions.

He's not the story. His boss is the story. If it makes him sound like he's lying, then it's a problem, but only then.

Complaining about a press secretary's forensic skills is like complaining about the color of the seats in a theater. They may be ugly -- they may be plaid or paisley -- but you're there to see the play.

If you need a daily does of gotcha, find someone who TIVO'd Crossfire.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:10 PM
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30. You all will never be satisfied
I can't believe the amount of nitpicking you all do.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:12 PM
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31. A person who hems and haws, much like our President at times, is using
a tactic commonly known as 'THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK AND SAY SOMETHING STUPID!!!!".... Gibbs is not in the room with the best and brightest, save Helen Thomas, this is a mental step downward for him. He's attempting to give honest and thoughtful and correct answers.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:47 PM
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68. After he has been there for awhile, he'll just say "Let me think on that for awhile,
and I'll get back to you."

Or the ever popular "I don't know, I'm not sure, let me check on that."

You can shut people up and put them off for a bit by just saying "I dunno, but I'll find out."

He'll get the spirit after he settles in, and find an effective style.

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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:12 PM
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32. How great were you on day 7 of your new job? n/t
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:13 PM
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33. Oh just give it a rest
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Dumak Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:15 PM
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34. He's a major improvement over Perino
He's the first press secretary I have been able to listen to for a long time. It's substance over style. If you just want style, go watch some porn videos.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:17 PM
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35. I'm just glad that he is honest. I watch WH press conferences to be informed, not entertained.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:17 PM
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37. Saw him this morning on TV against Matt Lauer and he was great.
Not sure what he did that you do not like. May be you're getting so used to talking points you cannot understand an honest man.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:19 PM
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41. He's mild mannered on the outside but people say..
he is steel on the inside.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:24 PM
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44. He has quite a reserve of menace that some people might overlook.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:50 PM
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71. he should then flip his manerism....
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:55 PM
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75. Not necessarily - give them a little rope and then..
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 03:55 PM by mvd
keep them in line.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:21 PM
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42. No, he's not. And, yes, you are.
I cannot even believe that you said you are "missing Perino." Do you prefer lies and obfusication from a pretty package rather than truth and openness?

Geesh! :eyes:
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:24 PM
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45. I think he's pretty good.
Smart, unintimidated, relaxed, and not an automaton.

Hmmm....maybe you should pause and have another drink?
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:26 PM
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47. This is the second time you have posted this. Dont you have
ANYTHING better to bitch about.:eyes:
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jimmybama Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:33 PM
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52. Yea right! 
You prefer someone smirk and smarmy like the bitch Bushy had?
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:08 PM
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86. I never posted this before
That was another poster's OP that I didn't see before I posted. I think they were seconds apart.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:30 PM
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49. He looks guilty of a crime every time I see him.
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 03:31 PM by LittleBlue
He's stuttering and stammering, most of the time getting grilled and looking like a child whose hand is caught in the cookie jar.

McClellan had indefensible positions to defend; this guy has easily defensible positions and he still looks bad.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:35 PM
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54. Do you listen to him or do you watch him, too?
The other day when he told some reporter to say "Hi" to Rush for him, he was hilarious. The look on his face was priceless.

I don't see what you see at all. He doesn't look guilty. He looks like he's listening and thinking.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:40 PM
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60. I watched his presser yesterday
He just couldn't defend the lobbyist position very well.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:45 PM
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63. Yes he did. He gave almost the same answer you said you would've liked to see him give. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:47 PM
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67. If the story isn't spun against Obama and spammed everywhere
Gibbs did fine.
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:54 PM
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74. But the delivery was horrible
People say soundbites don't matter, but they do when FOX viewers see Neil Cavuto attacking the president on this policy then playing the soundbite and the guy sounds like he's saying making shit up.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:27 PM
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95. The poster claimed he avoided answering the question. That's false. n/t
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:57 PM
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77. If he had given my answer and then repeated it forcefully,
instead of repeatedly falling back on the phrase "toughest restrictions ever", then it wouldn't have looked bad. He just kept repeating that same phrase over and over. It was absurd for someone who is in the right to look so bad.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:29 PM
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97. He gave a complete answer. You claimed he avoided answering it. He said more than
what you're now saying he said, too.
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:49 PM
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70. That's my point, he's way too defensive
The mandate applies to him too. He needs to start acting like it and get some confidence up there.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:22 PM
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91. WAY too defensive. He shouldn't be arrogant, but he should be confident.
He needs to come off the adrenaline high, real quick, already, immediately.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:32 PM
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50. Yes- McCain and Palin would have had a crackerjack Press Sec.
sheesh
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:33 PM
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51. NO. i think he is doing a good job. What I DO WANT TO STOP
IS BEING NICE WIHT THE PRESS. He should be just like rethugs press secretaries before him were.. ...not answering any questions.. - give the pressers pretty much the same treatment... so they can learn a lesson.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:34 PM
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53. Those of us who aren't drunk and listen to him, appreciate
HIM!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:35 PM
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55. I like him and the press knows he is tight with the boss so he isn't like some clueless press
secretaries who don't know what is really going on in the White House. He isn't always so affable - "an affable Alabaman with pit-bullish tendencies behind the scenes in defense of his boss."

Here is a profile of him:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/magazine/21Gibbs-t.html
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:36 PM
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56. Sober the fuck up and
then we'll talk.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:39 PM
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58. Right. What is it with Democrats lacking the Power of their Conviction?
What is it with Democrats feeling the need to apologize for... being?

Why is it that Republicans support their President and vote in lock step while Democrats have to show that... whatever?
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:02 PM
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82. That's why Howard Dean was so popular
He was just the opposite and I think that really resonated with Democrats.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:41 PM
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61. He's nervous. He'll watch the tape and correct himself.
Others sucked at their first outing, too. Dee Dee was horrible. She got good.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:46 PM
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66. Are you always this Drunk?
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:51 PM
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72. I guess I need to find that name change amnesty thread
I get busted on every time I post. I thought people would get it. In England they call it "cheeky".
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:00 PM
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80. I think Cheeky is still available.
:)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:48 PM
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69. Normal people don't watch the White House press briefings on television
So while us political junkies would love to see Allison Janney up there entertaining us, style doesn't really matter at the end of the day to normal people. What matters is what information reporters get from the briefings because that determines how they write their stories. Those stories are read/watched by ordinary people. As long as Gibbs conveys the message to the press then he's doing a good job. Conveying it with style would be a nice bonus but it is not a necessity.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:59 PM
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79. Ha yeah, he definitely does suck
I feel bad for him sometimes.

You know, they surely have someone more articulate than him in the White House, so why put Gibbs out there?
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:12 PM
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87. LEAVE THE MAN ALONE!
Could you do a better job?


I am so sick of this attack R.Gibbs shit, STFU!
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:15 PM
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88. I honestly think I could
And I'm not saying I'm smarter or more clever than he is, I think I would give a better conference with better sound bite. I also think almost everyone personally knows someone who would be better.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:25 PM
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92. Well, Obama isn't going to hire you. So, dream on...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:26 PM
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93. It's not about the soundbyte. He is not President.
It's about being straight forward and telling the truth. You are used to the hoodwinkers and are elevating them above the earnest fact tellers. If you haven't heard, there is change in Washington, and you are going to have to adjust your expectations from slick sales people to the People's President Communications Director.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:21 PM
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90. If you're missing Air Fliesher, something is seriously wrong.
Ari was a smug, disgusting prick.
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:26 PM
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94. He was a smarmy, lying shitstick, no argument there
But the man could drop a soundbite. When Bush was lying us into war with Iraq, Ari's soundbites played very well at the end of the story. That was very valuable to Bush and greatly helped his presidency during that time. There may be a time when Obama could use a soundbite or two and that's what I'm thinking about.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:28 PM
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96. Obama doesn't need soundbites. Unlike Bush, Obama can speak.
Bush needed other people to speak for him.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:30 PM
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98. Maybe because you're Always Drunk?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:31 PM
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99. No. I'll take honest and competent but clumsy over smooth but dumb and slimy.
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 04:32 PM by Occam Bandage
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:32 PM
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100. Ari Fliesher is "watchable"?


I guess if you're drunk....
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 04:33 PM
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101. No.
I like Gibbs so far.
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GentryDixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:15 PM
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103. You are just not used to a Press Secretary
who actually answers questions truthfully. Yes, he Umms a good deal, but he answers the questions, and is actually schooling these reporters. They have not been able to ask real questions for 8 years.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:24 PM
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104. I think he's the right man for the job
Puts an unassuming face on the presidency and gives it a folksy voice. Is fuck-up-free with the press. Meantime, we've got all the style and all the rhetoric we need in the oval office. What's not to love?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:29 PM
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106. I would vote for the best - he speaks like a real person with some integrity
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:08 PM
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107. No, but this is without question the worst thread ever....
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 07:12 PM by Clio the Leo
... hey, I adore you and all, but you asked for it. :)

Do NOT mess with the Gibbanator! Ok, ONE MORE TIME.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEsCp4FWdi8

(the whole clip)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgn6rjGbp0c
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:10 PM
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108. Nope. I think he's doing a great job, thank you.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:14 PM
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109. Are you kidding? Gibbs is the guy who PWNED Sean Insannity on his own show.
I think you missed the little :sarcasm: icon.

NGU.
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