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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 01:51 PM
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I'm Extremely Disappointed With Raw Story. Obama Did Not PRAISE a Torture Ruling
Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 01:52 PM by berni_mccoy
He thanked the UK for respecting U.S. National Security and Secret Information.

Raw Story has painted a completely unrealistic picture of what Obama actually said.

Here is their headline: "After Obama praises torture ruling, civil liberties group appalled"

And Story: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/ACLU_Hope_flickering_on_torture_after_0204.html

What was actually said by a spokesperson:

"The United States thanks the UK government for its continued commitment to protect sensitive national security information and preserve the long-standing intelligence sharing relationship that enables both countries to protect their citizens," a spokesman said.


That's not praise for torture. That's a thank you for respecting U.S. sensitive information. And Obama didn't say it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 01:52 PM
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1. I agree. The US thanked the UK for respecting an information-sharing agreement.
That's all.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 01:53 PM
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2. was there ever any doubt...
That once a Democrat was elected, outlets like RawStory would come after him/her? Their business is drama. If there is none, they make it themselves.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 01:54 PM
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3. It's hyperventilation.
Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 01:58 PM by AtomicKitten
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8169440&mesg_id=8170623
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 01:56 PM
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4. They twist and spin everything and then people who love the
negative bullshit post it here and push the Obama has betrayed us crap.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 02:13 PM
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5. Thank goodness some sanity on DU.
:yourock:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 02:38 PM
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6. .
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 02:49 PM
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7. SILENCE YOU OBAMA KOOL AID DRINKER. Rationality is not allowed if it favors Obama at any point!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:18 PM
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13. Exactly! They'd rather have a flamebait thread
with over a hundred replies debating who can twist a story better.

And, that's President Obama KoolAid Drinkers, buddy!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 02:55 PM
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8. It's RAWNG STORY
Get it... wrong...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:19 PM
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14. Yes, I got it..
What happened to them? I thought they knew what they were doing? Reputation is all you got and all that?
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snowsman Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:08 PM
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9. Spokesmen get paid to express the views of the people who hire them
What makes you think that the spokesman did not consult with Obama first??
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:16 PM
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12. It's not words Obama spoke and it's not what Raw Story reported him as saying.
Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 03:17 PM by berni_mccoy
So your point is irrelevant.

Raw Story has an obligation not to change the meaning of what was actually said.

And they have an obligation to distinguish between what Obama says vs. his Administration officially states via spokesperson. They are not one in the same and there is a bad reason RS decided to report it as Obama's words.
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snowsman Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:32 PM
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15. Your meaning is someone else's meaninbg
Raw Story accurately represented the words by the spokesman.

You disagree. The ruling kept secret info secret. The spokesman praised the secretive party for this. It is that simple. The plaintiffs were the media including the NY Times, who wanted an outcome totally opposed to what Obama's spokesman praised.
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snowsman Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:40 PM
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16. I assume the ACLU disappoints you, too
Because they opened fire against Obama in a tone 20 times harsher than the Raw Story yesterdat.

When Obama is criticized, progressives entities such as the Raw Story and the ACLU begin to look like Rush Limbaugh and Hannity in the eyes of those who worship him. Krugman comes to mind, too.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:09 PM
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10. Most of the progressive outlets reporting this story today made some version
of the same headline, not only Raw Story.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:13 PM
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11. Thank you. n/t
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:57 PM
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17. well then you should be happy with the MSM
because they completely ignored the ACLU letter as far as I could find.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 08:59 PM
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18. Geez Berni... we sure could've used you here LATE last night!!
.
.

Howza 'bout you give us a pager number so we can call you in when you're sleeping to help settle family squabbles? ~~


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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 11:16 PM
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19. Your smileys crack me up! You must have a million of those things... :o)
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 11:27 PM
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20. I get pissed at Raw Story so often repeating republican slanted stories.
Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 11:30 PM by LaPera
I can't tell you how how times I scream & yell at Raw Story pieces and really question what they are going for..... fairness?

No, because so many of the stories are just complete republican propaganda & lies...and that's the take Raw Story decides to offer on a particular story, the republican take.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 11:46 PM
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21. "That's not praise for torture."
The article didn't say it was. The article said that Obama praised a "torture ruling."
"And Obama didn't say it." He did praise the ruling through his spokesperson.
The headline is way more accurate than your characterization of it.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:51 AM
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22. No, instead they were thankful for it.
I don't think that makes it any better.
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