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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:54 PM
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We need to frame the GOP as The Do Nothings for 2010 since they have planned for 2010 all along
I've mentioned in the past that I have a connection with someone who has gone to many GOP inner circle leadership "batcave" meetings and he told me as long ago as last spring that the GOP knew that they really were not going to win the Presidential race in 2008.

He admitted that they were very geared up to run an insanely nasty campaign with the Clintons and when that possibility fell through, they retooled a bit for fighting Obama but weren't sure what the "boundaries" were with attacking him. He even likes and respects Obama, but his GOP apparachiks are fully aware that they will try to destroy Obama in any way they can.

The main point that my GOP friend has told me was admitted today by Newt Gingrich on the Sunday show "This Week". It's all about 2010. The Republicans do NOT believe in getting along with Democrats in ANY WAY. Sure, some moderates are currently playing along, but the efforts are obvious.

My friend had predicted and was basically given marching orders as far back as last spring that 2010 is hopefully be like 1994 for them. Newt Gingrich, the architect of that shameful time, feels that America will play along again and will want to frame the public that the Democrats own the wars, own the teetering economy, spend way too much on "pork" and, if the Democrats fall into their framing trap, voted against the military but wanted to help inner-city kids (re: those people), unions, abortionists, wacko arts groups (like the NEA, NPR...) and other very tired arguments that the GOP are perfect at spewing.

Obama showed in his recent speech that "the time to talk is over" and is about to sling back right into the heart of the GOP's parrots and naysayers. With Obama's help, we can own the GOP in 2010 if we keep bringing up exactly WHY we are here now... 8 years of careless buffoonery from the Bush administration.

Otherwise, the GOP and the willing, impatient, unjournalistic mainstream corporate media will read Newt Gingrich's press releases and continue bringing about more Beltway snags and political maneuvering.

The GOP has proven they don't want to truly engage in bipartisan legislation. We need to hammer it full strength that they are Do Nothings AND have planned to do this all along, months before the people elected Obama.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:56 PM
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1. Democrats in Congress need to be out there making that case
They aren't. Republicans are dominating the airwaves.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:23 AM
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10. Media does outreach, decides who's on air. Not always our A list.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:56 PM
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2. It's why Bush timed his tax cuts to sunset in 2010.
It's all about picking up seats in the midterm.
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:57 PM
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3. makes sense to me, what steps should we take?
I'm ready for suggestions.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:04 PM
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7. We need TV and radio ads as well as try to get inroads with pissed, moderate Republicans
It's no surprise that the GOP is getting horrible poll numbers with their obvious hand-wringing, filibustering, stalling and other predictable circular arguments with the Stimulus bill.

What needs to be fully explained is that they have never wanted to help the economy as well as are not going to cooperate with Obama to get things done. They just want to drag their feet and not get anything accomplished. The main point is that they have been planning to so this all along and as far back as last spring.

It's been the GOP's plan to look at 2010 to switch back power like 1994.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:17 PM
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9. I have an idea for a TV/radio ad I might make an attempt at...
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 11:17 PM by zulchzulu
Video of Ronald Reagan

"The real reasons for today's economic problems are due to policies like deregulation that President Reagan has implemented".

Video of the Challenger exploding

"Would you ask the engineers who worked on the Challenger to try to help you not crash again""

Video of the Titanic sinking (photos)

"Would you believe the builders of the Titanic that they can build another unsinkable ship?"

Video of Bush signing tax cut legislation with Republicans surrounding him

"Would you ask the same Republicans who got us in this mess what we should do now?"

Video of a pile of trash on fire

"Should we reward those that have failed us with another chance to fail us again?"

End with contact your representative to vote for the Stimulus...

- - - - - - - - - - -

Another video would basically be Republicans in a batcave meeting saying that they will stall and obfuscate so that they can perhaps get more votes in 2010.

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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:02 AM
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15. I like this idea for an ad. It sounds very effective.
Maybe include something about infrastructure... When you want your bridges, highways, underground utilities and levees to be safely maintained, who ya' gonna call? (homage to ghostbusters) Not the Republicants who canceled the scheduled maintenance in favor of tax cuts and military spending. (Reagan in the 80's I believe) A bit verbose, but you know what I mean, right?

Related to your post (but not limited to the Stimulus), I think Obama really needs to ALWAYS be reaching out to the public and urging them to contact their legislators to support whatever program/bill he is trying to implement. That avenue of communication and support needs to become well-traveled.

Obama ----> The People ----> Representatives & Senators

People who haven't always been into politics need to become conditioned to use this tool for change.

And sure, President Obama can keep reaching across the aisle...
But he needs to keep talking directly to The People.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:53 AM
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17. McCain provided the perfect soundbite for an infrastructure ad
He was yammering about how he was looking through the Stimulus bill and saw that there "were no jobs anywhere..."

Just have that soundbite followed by statistics on how many jobs would be provided for even just building the infrastructure with images of potholes, dangerous bridges, traffic jams...

Then slam dunk it with McCain and his cronies in gray with the title "We're tired of old, failed excuses. America deserves change."

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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 03:46 PM
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19. I like it!
You're good at this. :)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:57 PM
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4. Emphasis on the word "try"...
.... TRY to destroy him.

But a foolish man is the one who underestimates Barack Obama and his ability to out think and outmaneuver these fools.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:59 PM
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5. I think the Dems are getting it. Obama grabs the spotlight tomorrow night,
and I think the Dems will be swarming. Better late than never. Though why this failed their attention is interesting. Designed? Distracted? I don't know.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 10:59 PM
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6. If this 'stimulus' bill fails, the Dems will look like the Do Nothings
Obama has MASSIVE political capital. He could get on the teevee and ask people to support him in any number of radical economic changes that benefit the peons.

If this not-a-stimulus doesn't work, how hard will it be for the Repubs to adopt populist talking points going into 2010?
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:07 PM
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8. Knowing this is the strategy of the gop, to obstruct at every turn
why the hell do we allow milquetoasts like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to lead the Senate and House? The Democratic Party doesn't seem to act like it won the White House back. To listen to many of them you'd think the gop won in a landslide.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:30 AM
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11. If I was running the show, I would go after any of the GOP class
of 1994 still serving by pointing out that 16 years ago, they all signed a pledge to not run more than four times.

I would say can we really trust someone again who plaid lip service to a pledge back made in 1994?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:31 AM
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12. Of course, they did..they're nothing, they got nothing,
and out of nothing comes nothing.

But, Obama can say he tried to work with them and they decided "winning" the 2010 elections so they screw like bush again was more important to them than America's recovery. Fucking blood suckers.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:34 AM
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13. Hoover Republicans.....
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:42 AM
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14. My only quibble ..... no matter we do, with the media as it is, we can't win
In this particular matter, getting the media to be fair is job number one.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:20 AM
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16. It's worse than *doing nothing*
They're actually working to further damage the nation. It's more important to them for President Obama to fail. They don't care what will happen to the country. They just don't want the Dem's and President Obama to accomplish anything that will help the people, and economy and as a result the Democratic Party.

Treasonous bastards.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:58 AM
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18. Hoover republicans. or hooverites.
they are like hoover. let's do nothing and it will all work out in the end. isn't that what hoover did?? it wasn't the crash itself, but the inaction that made it so bad.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 06:38 PM
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20. This vote makes it even more obvious n/t
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:02 PM
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21. Obama is going to be a two term prez, so repukes can suck it..nt
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