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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:02 PM
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The Secretary Speaks Out!
Based on the teaser, she nails chimpy's balls to the floor...BIG TIME!
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lasttrip Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:03 PM
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1. please keep us posted. thanx.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:04 PM
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4. In the teaser she said something to the effect of...
"it's really simple...bush didn't think he had to play by the rules..."

Oh, and the documents may not be authentic but the information contained IS.
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Cleopatra2a Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:14 PM
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18. especially since they are not
showing it in Oklahoma!! I rushed home from eating just to watch this, and both channels are not running it. I am watching Keith Olberman instead.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:03 PM
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2. She looks good for someone in their 80's
and she seems sharp as a tack
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:04 PM
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3. Bend over Dumbya - you're getting a new one
Hehe - he deserves everything he gets - liar.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:05 PM
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5. the tease showed her saying
"He just didn't feel like he had to follow the rules"

This is going to be FANtastic!
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betterdeadthanred Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:08 PM
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7. Pop the corn ya'll
It's gonna be a good night:)
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:15 PM
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22. Ohhhhhh just light butter, please
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:08 PM
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6. setting the "record straight"
She says "i did not type those memos. not the form i would have used. words there belong in the army, not the air guard...HOWEVER...the information in those is correct."
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:09 PM
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8. Says she typed SIMILAR MEMOS with same info
HAHAHAAAA
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:09 PM
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9. she said she typed similar memos. nt
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:09 PM
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10. Remembers her boss (killian) being upset about chimpy not taking physicial
SNORT SNORT!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:10 PM
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11. Next Question: Does anybody even NEED those stinkin' memos????
Huh? Who needs them?
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:12 PM
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Her statement is a thousand
times better than the real memo.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:15 PM
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20. yup. FUCK the memos. we got the real deal. nt
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:21 PM
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32. Add it up: official docs + her statement confirming the content of the
supposedly-forged docs + not a damned thing refuting any of it, and what do you have?

A media blitz about the Chimp's phoniness, cover-ups, lying, lack of credibility, and personality issue that rules "don't apply" to him?

OR

A media blitz about fonts, proportional spacing, kerning, CBS, Dan Rather, Republican requests for Congressional inquiries, and why John Kerry isn't commenting?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:11 PM
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12. Upset so he DID write a memo directing Chimp to take a physical!
Puke for brains "thought he was above the others"
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:11 PM
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13. I bet he remembers her name now
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 07:14 PM by merbex
LOL;he could never remember her name
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:11 PM
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14. He DID get into guard with preferential treatment. YES! SMACKDOWN!
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bringbackfdr Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:12 PM
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15. As an aside ...
I love the visual conjured by those sweet words: "She nailed Chimpy's balls to the floor.''
If only that could be shown on 60 Minutes.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:13 PM
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16. how much you wanna bet...
the media attacks her? :eyes:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:22 PM
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35. It's going to be tough for them to slime an 86 yr old
except for the heartless ones like Hannity and Limpballs.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:47 PM
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39. I hope they do... everyone (almost) would be disgusted
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:13 PM
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17. I AM LOVING THIS
LOL,other boys resented him
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:15 PM
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19. Hmm, the memos must have come from Rove.
He probably had the information re-typed because he knew he could call his dogs to holler "forged" on whatever media outlet took his bait.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:15 PM
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21. Left, Right, Left, Right - Riveting Body Blows By Madame Secretary!
Chimpy is down for the count here. No way you can watch this and come away feeling good about Chimp in Chief.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:16 PM
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She said something about Killian's Daughter Not Having a Clue!
WHew! You go girl!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:49 PM
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40. Daughter???
I didn't hear anything about Killian having a daughter refuting the claim... There was the ex-wife and a son.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:16 PM
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23. THE SMOKING SECRETARY!!!
I love her. reminds me of Ruby Romaine (Tracy Ullman character)

KNOX KNOCKS IT OUT OF THE PARK!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:57 PM
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46. Naw, she is Lilly Tomlin.
Lilly Tomlin at her best. Oh, what a glorious evening! What say the nay-sayers? What say the repukes?
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:16 PM
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24. Oh c'mon...
This old lady is a fake. She is too old to remember anything. I can create a woman like this on my PC. Why should anyone believe someone other than bush... he was a true hero, not like this lady...she is just some broad. What do they know? This woman is a forgery!!
:evilgrin:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:17 PM
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25. YEAH! She's gotta be virtual. One of those holygrammatical thingies.
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:18 PM
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27. I'm frightened for her now
What are they gonna do to her???!:scared:

Can she get police protection?
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:19 PM
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29. "she's probably a Kerry supporter"
someone in the media will say that sometime in the next few hours.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:21 PM
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31. hmmm.... maybe it was Tracy Ullman....
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 07:24 PM by nostamj
nah.............................

on edit:

wow! really messed up. posted reply to wrong post twice in 5 minutes!

sorry kids, just giddy from Ms. Knox I guess :shrug:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:22 PM
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34. well, do you think ROVE knew she was still ALIVE...
and KICKING!?!?! :kick:
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:00 PM
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48. While watching.....
the 60 minutes piece tonight Rove thinks to himself, "damn I thought they said she was on Wellstone's plane"
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:17 PM
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26. BAM!
Dan Rather: "Though people questioned the authenticity of the memos, they HAVE NOT QUESTIONED THE HEART OF THEM!"
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:18 PM
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28. People in battleground states
are complaining about not receiving 60 min. tonight. If that ain't fascism, WTF is?
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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:20 PM
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30. I missed the first 5 min...
but I recorded the rest...encoding and will be up later tonight
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GimmeDANEger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:24 PM
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36. What type of equipment do you use to transfer this stuff so quickly?
I am very appreciative of your efforts! I'm just wondering what type of equipment do you need to transfer this because I have been interested in doing something similar to this. Thanks
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They_LIHOP Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:19 PM
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50. Well, I am not the poster here but I can tell you one way...
If you purchase and install a Radeon "All In Wonder" video card, such as:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,704649,00.asp

You will have TV on your machine, along with the ability to record TV, and other cool features. I'd imagine this is how the poster is doing it, but I'm not really sure.

The above card is what I'm personally running ... It's getting a little long in the tooth, but it was sure the cats meow a couple years back. It was top of the line for, oh, about 72 hours before something better came out ... you know how it is in out here in Techno-land ;)

A lower-end, or older AIW, such as the AIW9000 can be gotten for pretty damn cheap - perhaps $50 or less, and for the simple purpose of watching or recording TV should perform perfectly acceptably.

Disclaimer: If I personally were going to buy another AIW, I would not even consider going any lower-end than the ATI AIW 9600XT
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2484683

But then again, I like to play DX9 games, so that dictates the choices available to me...
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GimmeDANEger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:54 PM
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52. I currently have the Radeon 9800 (not the pro)
Would it hurt the graphics of many of the high-end computer games (BFV, UT2004, Farcry) if I switched to the All-in-Wonder
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:21 PM
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33. How can you trust this secretary?
Her dentures are superscripted! :evilgrin:
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athena Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:27 PM
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37. The secretary said she didn't type the memos.
Right? How does it follow that they must be fake? Did she say, "I didn't type them, and I know that no one else did; therefore they must be fake", or did she say, "I don't know, I certainly didn't type them ... they might be fake"? If she said the latter, it's possible that another secretary, or the guy himself, typed them.

I just don't get the "logic". How does one person not typing the documents prove that the documents are forged?
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:35 PM
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38. the PHYSICAL memos no longer matter... the CONTENT
of the memos has been confirmed. THAT is what tonight's segment was all about.

Knox was VERY credible.

KNOX KNOCKOUT
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:49 PM
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41. It doesn't, but they lose either way.
She says she didn't type them (you're right, it doesn't prove they're forged).

She confirms the content, and them some -- adds weight to the core issues involved.

They can't call her a liar, nor can they say she's truthful. They lose either way.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:54 PM
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44. when phish420 finishes putting up the video (see his/her sig. line)
you can listen and judge.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:52 PM
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42. 86, and she didn't mention "Gridlock"
I call that a victory already.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:54 PM
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43. She'd better watch out for exploding bingo cards, laced lemon drops, etc.
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They_LIHOP Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:56 PM
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45. Whoa, whoa, WHOA!!!
At first, this thread got me excited, but now you've got me confused!

Can someone explain this whole situation to me here with this woman? Is she the one who's supposed to have typed these memos herself, and now she's saying she didn't, and that they use the wrong terminology, and therefore ... WHAT? What does the info she's added to the discussion really amount to?!? Is she saying they're physically faked, but actually 'true'?

OMFG, *that* would be about THE WORST friggin thing to have come out after Rather/CBS has put their necks on the line saying that they are real - or am I totally missing something? Her 'word' that they are accurate, but not necessarily 'authentic' will be twisted IMMEDIATELY into 'see, we told you they're forged' by every other media whore apart from CBS, and there will be NO coverage of her confirming thir accuracy. Esp. since thats been the angle they've all been reporting all along :(

I'm REALLY confused (and freaked out) now, can somebody please share the full skinny here, for us cube rats?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:59 PM
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47. She says she DID type such memos
She hasn't proven they're forgeries.
She has confirmed every ounce of their content and then some.
She has said such memos did exist and she did type them.
She has ADDED WEIGHT to the issue that the Chimp did not fulfill his responsibility and the more important issue that there has been a COVER-UP.
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They_LIHOP Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:39 PM
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51. So, you're saying that we aren't hanging our hat on HER...
having physically typed these memos?

in other words, her claiming she did NOT cannot be twisted to 'prove' that the docs are not authentic?

Cuz if she WAS the one that was supposed to have typed them, but said she didn't, I can see the MW's covering NOTHING BUT that piece of her statement. In which case this would seem to be a major cluster-f*ck for 'our side' and the AWOL story...

Please please please let this story be GOOD NEWS!!!
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:05 PM
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49. Mrs. Knox' testimony was devastating for Bush. Dan Rather would
(rather) have her live testimony than a thousand document experts certifying the docs as authentic. Dan will sleep well tonight.

For 90% of Bush supporters this will not matter. They too believe in a life of priviledge, and believe rules are for you and me, not for them.

But hopefully 2 or 3 percent of the population who haven't made up their minds yet will hear this 86 year old woman speak truth to power, and it will make a difference.

God help us if it does not.
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