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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 03:30 PM
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Dear Wall Street, RW and complicit media: You helped screw up the economy, now get out of the way.

As Obama Unveils Lending Program, Wall Street Journal Says His Time Is Up

Today, the Wall Street Journal editorial board decided that President Barack Obama has already had ample time to fix the economy, and can now be blamed for all of our economic woes:

But after five weeks in office, it’s become clear that Mr. Obama’s policies are slowing, if not stopping, what would otherwise be the normal process of economic recovery. From punishing business to squandering scarce national public resources, Team Obama is creating more uncertainty and less confidence — and thus a longer period of recession or subpar growth.

So we had eight years to get into this mess and five weeks to get out? The Journal’s sole factor for determining Obama’s success was the fact that the Dow sunk below 7,000 yesterday. However, the Journal neglected to mention the administration’s housing plan — aimed at stemming the foreclosure crisis at the heart of the economic downturn — and also left out the new details of the administration’s public-private investment fund for the banks that were reported in the Journal’s own news pages.

These programs are part of Obama’s response to the mess President George Bush left behind, and the administration announced another facet today: the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility (TALF).

The goal for TALF is to boost lending to consumers and small businesses in a couple of ways. First, it will allow companies like GE Finance — which are already holding highly-rated asset-backed loans (like student or auto loans) — to use those loans as collateral for obtaining new federal funding, which it will turn around and lend right back out. Second, it will encourage hedge funds and private equity firms to go out and buy some of these loans, which they can then give to the Fed in return for funding to purchase more loans. This will create a market for loan securities, and as more are bought lending should get rolling again.

While there is a risk to the taxpayer, the loans eligible for the program included are relatively safe, as they have to be originated after October 2007 and AAA rated (which is the highest rating of credit worthiness). A push by the mortgage industry to include less stable mortgage backed securities has thus far been rebuffed.

The plan definitely isn’t perfect, and the federal government is going to be in the business of subsidizing hedge fund activities for a while (the program ends in December 2009). The Fed will have to carefully watch to ensure that firms receiving this money use it to buy more securities, and don’t run off to do something else. But at the end of the day, reviving credit is one more in a necessary series of steps toward economic recovery. And this recovery is going to take some time, a concept that the Journal evidently has a hard time grasping.




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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 03:32 PM
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1. oh Wall street is whining big time. too effing bad.
President Obama INHERITED THIS MESS!!!!!!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 03:41 PM
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3. He may have inherited the mess- but his economic team refuses to deal with the banks & AIG
instead, we're getting a continuation of the same sorts of policies that Paulson & co. brought us.

Eventually- and not far down the line, people are going to get fed up with it.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 03:45 PM
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4. Not really, I don't see that at all. Because he won't nationalize the banks?
Really, that is not the best idea in the world. Greenspan wants it done, its corporate welfare. The economy will stink for a long time as Bush and Wall St. and the Repukes got us into a huge mess. Paulson had no idea where money was going and could care less about helping out people with foreclose problems.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 03:46 PM
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5. So what is the WSJ complaining about?
What nonsense. It's been five weeks. No one has a clue what Obama's policies will do, and will not know for months.



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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 05:56 PM
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7. Gaithner, Summers and crew are just limping along (or- more accurately, flailing about)
As Krugman (and many other respected economists) have noted:

"...the insistence on offering the same plan over and over again, with only cosmetic changes, is itself deeply disturbing. Does Treasury not realize that all these proposals amount to the same thing? Or does it realize that, but hope that the rest of us won’t notice? That is, are they stupid, or do they think we’re stupid?"
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:54 PM
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11. Still doesn't mean anyone has a crystal ball, and there are a lot of factors

Climate of Change

By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: February 27, 2009

Elections have consequences. President Obama’s new budget represents a huge break, not just with the policies of the past eight years, but with policy trends over the past 30 years. If he can get anything like the plan he announced on Thursday through Congress, he will set America on a fundamentally new course.

The budget will, among other things, come as a huge relief to Democrats who were starting to feel a bit of postpartisan depression. The stimulus bill that Congress passed may have been too weak and too focused on tax cuts. The administration’s refusal to get tough on the banks may be deeply disappointing. But fears that Mr. Obama would sacrifice progressive priorities in his budget plans, and satisfy himself with fiddling around the edges of the tax system, have now been banished.

For this budget allocates $634 billion over the next decade for health reform. That’s not enough to pay for universal coverage, but it’s an impressive start. And Mr. Obama plans to pay for health reform, not just with higher taxes on the affluent, but by putting a halt to the creeping privatization of Medicare, eliminating overpayments to insurance companies.

On another front, it’s also heartening to see that the budget projects $645 billion in revenues from the sale of emission allowances. After years of denial and delay by its predecessor, the Obama administration is signaling that it’s ready to take on climate change.

And these new priorities are laid out in a document whose clarity and plausibility seem almost incredible to those of us who grew accustomed to reading Bush-era budgets, which insulted our intelligence on every page. This is budgeting we can believe in.

more


The economy isn't going to get better overnight.



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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 08:10 PM
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12. Not talking about the budget- but the FAILURE to do what's required to stabilize the banks
The longer this goes on- the worse it's going to get- and the Obama administration owns the issue now.

If we're still talking about bailout after bailout- and fat cat bonuses and salaries this time next year, Obama's approval ratings are going have tanked.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 08:14 PM
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13. "If we're still talking about bailout...and fat cat bonuses and salaries this time next year"
So you don't know what we'll be talking about this time next year?

Like I said, Obama is implementing a strategy and there is absolutely no way anyone can say it isn't working yet.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 08:23 PM
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14. I see no appreciable difference at the Treasury from Paulson's crew
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 08:30 PM by depakid
My guess is that they know what they have to do- deal with Citi and B of A just as was done with Indymac. They simply lack the political will and fortitude to do it to their own benefactors.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 08:51 PM
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15. So let me get this straight:
You see no difference (but the WSJ is up in arms) and you're predicting that Obama's policies will fail because the members of his administration "lack the political will and fortitude to do it to their own"?

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 01:41 AM
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20. The policies are pretty much the same as Paulson's!
Show me where the difference is?



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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:48 PM
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19. Apparently the majority of American people do per the WSJ's own poll.
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 10:49 PM by Jennicut
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 03:39 PM
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2. Wall Street has no room to complain about anything...
They played a large part in the failure of our economy, so it would be best for them to go to the nearest corner, sit down with their faces against the wall and suck their thumbs.

The WSJ should be one of the newspapers to close their doors. They are causing more problems than solutions.

We'll call you when we're done fixing this mess, WS.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 04:21 PM
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6. "They are causing more problems than solutions." Completely agree. n/t
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cwcwmack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 05:57 PM
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8. if
if the WSJ is unhappy then President OBAMA is doing something RIGHT!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:20 PM
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9. The Wall Street Journal has the same long term vision as a cancerous tumor.
Mindless, unrelenting growth to benefit the tumor, screw the body's maintenance and other vital needs, send all resources to the tumor.

Sometimes Wall Street does create "millionaires" or metastasizes creating tumors in other parts of the human body sucking up an every increasing amount of the blood supply and resources. But in the long run, this wealth is in large part illusion, because when the body dies so does the cancer.

Now maybe just a little bit of cancer is good for you as it does serve to focus the mind on what's important in life, but in many cases cancer leads to depression both physically and in the case of Wall Street's live for the now, me first, last and in the middle "long term vision" economically.

Thanks for the thread, ProSense.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:20 PM
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10. Just saw Jim Kramer's infantile whinefest - gimme a break.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 09:46 PM
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16. The WSJ is owned by Rupert fucking Murdoch.
Of course they're going to attack Obama. Fuck the fucking Wall Street fucking Journal.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 09:54 PM
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17. They're just solidifying their irrelevance. I say we let them.
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 09:55 PM by glitch
Anybody who buys their spewage deserves to own it.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:43 PM
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18. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
That was PRICELESS!!!

Five Fuckin' Weeks!!!
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