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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:23 AM
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Newt just asked "does Chris Matthews hurt or help the Democratic party?" ............
Edited on Sun Mar-08-09 10:29 AM by Exilednight
There is no doubt about it, Matthews is a DINO and does nothing but hurt our party every time he mentions his ties to the Carter administration.

I'm still wonder why MSNBC still employees him. He's a pseudo-intellectual at best and plain ignorant at worst.

*edit christ to chris. Sorry, Lord.
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:25 AM
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1. Did Newt really call him "Christ"?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:25 AM
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2. Ridiculous comparison... typical, though for Newt...
They've got nothing.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:26 AM
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35. But he dominated the conversation
And any casual listener will come away thinking that Obama is way off in his proposals to correct the economy. And confidence is sorely needed right now. Newt is running for president in 2012.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:25 AM
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3. Christ's last name is "Matthews"? I never knew that.
Anyway, Newt:

FAIL
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:26 AM
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4. he hurts the Democratic party
Edited on Sun Mar-08-09 10:30 AM by ErinBerin84
because a lot of the times, he doesn't stand for Democratic principles. Do these assholes even watch his show? Is this Newt trying to equate Rush with Chris Matthews, why isn't he at least using Keith or Rachel? And I don't see a lot of Democratic leaders cow towing to Keith and Rachel and making them out to be leaders. He likes Obama, but seriously, he has been bitching for the last two weeks about "pork", the stock market, etc. Only the GOP would take someone who has voted for Bush and Michael Steel, and make that boneheaded comparison.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:07 AM
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27. he's in the media
he isnt supposed to be helping either party, so quite frankly if he is doing his job right, he should end up "hurting" both parties from time to time.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:09 AM
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28. exactly
Edited on Sun Mar-08-09 11:22 AM by ErinBerin84
I am just saying why the comparison is not relevant. He's a conservative Dem at best, so not an "extreme lefty", as RUsh is an extreme wing of the right. And Dems would not say he has leadership, so the entire premise of Newt's question is wrong. If he was going to use a partisan person on tv, he's not even an example that should be used.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:17 AM
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33. Democratic Underground is "in the media". There are people from both sides who ...........
work within the media and are partisan.

Now, if you're suggesting that Matthews is an objective journalist, I would take umbrage with that.

He's nothing more than a talking head who hasn't had an original thought since the 70s.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:26 AM
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5. He's a nut. He's loooooney. I don't think he helps us at all.
When he is so unprofessional as to say "Oh G-d" when bobby jindal walks in to give a speech, it makes the whole msnbc network look like a biased piece of crap. Just my opinion here.
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Numba6 Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 01:59 PM
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54. I would like to go "hear,hear" on each sub-thread pointing out how stupid, idiotic, bipolar, sensati
onalistic Tweety is, but I have things to do today.

This one will have to do
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:27 AM
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6. Why is anyone giving newt a platform? That's a bigger question. nt
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:31 AM
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12. Tell Me About It
Today's "Meet The Press" was the Newt show.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:29 AM
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37. I agree. Every time David "Howdy Doody" Gregory gave Newt the mike, he did in a position of support
Edited on Sun Mar-08-09 11:30 AM by bulloney
He didn't make Newt defend something he said or held a position on that would contradict what he's saying or doing today. For example, today, Newt kept talking like this elderly statesman calling for bipartisan solutions when anyone with at least a single-digit IQ knows he personified Scorched Earth Society politics as House Speaker.

To Tim Russert's credit, if he was hosting the show, he would have put some past quote on the screen and made Gingrich defend it or ask why the change in position today.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:44 AM
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18. McGregory*


*sung to the tune of MacGruber.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:29 AM
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7. Poor comparison. I don't see the DNC chair rushing to apologize to
Chris Matthews for criticizing him or any other democrats following suit unlike with the Republican party and Rush.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:29 AM
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8. note to media: always use "adulterer" when referring to Newt nt
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:21 AM
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34. "Prolific Adulterer" or "Serial Adulterer"
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:28 AM
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36. We need to get those terms out
there. Kick a bit of Newt ass.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:29 AM
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9. Bigger question, is Newt trying to turn around the
Rush Limbaugh thing by diverting attention to Matthews and the Dems?
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:35 AM
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15. that's exactly what he's doing
He's saying, "See the Dems have a Rush of their own." No way is Tweety like Rush. No way. He has an intellect, for starters.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:50 AM
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20. Wow. If that's his intention, it's made of FAIL
Just like Newt himself.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:19 PM
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43. YES.
And it's a pathetically false comparison. They're not even close.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:30 AM
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10. Newt still desperate to remain relevant.
That ship sailed a long time ago, Newt.
Whole generation of voters coming up that don't ever remember you being in government.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:31 AM
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11. I don't think most dems know who matthews is.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:32 AM
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14. They might know who he is, but probably don't know what he is, or is suppose to be. n/t
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:32 AM
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13. Regarding "Christ" Mathews ...
If it's Sunday, it's Press the (Newt) Meat.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:41 AM
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16. Did Newt Really Say, "Democratic party"? Not "Democrat party?"
If he did, that's the big news.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:43 AM
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17. Matthews had THE BEST PLAMEGATE COVERAGE on television
I have seen him dismantle a Republican or Bushie in a matter of seconds.

Witness Michele Bachmann Meltdown.

In '04 he took on the Swifites early on when every one else was fauning over them.

JFK is his idol. He served in the Peace Corp.

Sure he is a mixed bag. We all are.

I would think twice if I were to find myself agreeing with Newt Gingrich. This is the guy who claims Obama and Bush have the same economic approach.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:50 AM
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19. Don't you get it?
It's retaliation for the Dems identifying Limbaugh as the de facto leader of the Republican Party.

So Mr Shallow (aka Newt) has to try to pin Chris Matthews as the de facto leader of the Democrat(ic) party.

This is childish...transparent ....and par for the course for the Republican Party.

:banghead:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:54 AM
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21. Did Anyone Answer The Question
what did Gregory do?
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:57 AM
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23. It was a rhetorical question. nt
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:54 AM
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22. If msnbc is going to clean house, let them start with scarborough, buchanan and gregory. nt
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 02:54 PM
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59. awww ... not Uncle Pat
he's good for comic relief.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:57 AM
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24. Does Newt Gingrich help or hurt the human race?
:eyes:
rocktivity
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:06 AM
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25. Is Newt Gingrich even relevant? That's MY question. Is he seriously still a big
force in the Repig party? That's worth pondering...a tax-evading, adultering POS whose "Contract for America" was
more like a "Contract ON America".

Get HIM off my TV!!!! :wtf:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:31 AM
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38. If the economy doesn't
improve you will find out because he will win the Republican nomination for 2012.

I find him even more repulsive than Rush Limbaugh. If that is even possible.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:07 AM
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26. A stupid blunder for Gingrich to make . . .
Edited on Sun Mar-08-09 11:07 AM by EffieBlack
He sat on national television and compared Chris Matthews to Rush Limbaugh.

Not smart.

It's very likely that Matthews will, as is his wont, obsessively zero in on this comment and do everything he can to show Gingrich why he is not the Rush Limbaugh of the Democratic Party - which will mean going after Gingrich pretty hard.

Whatever one thinks of Matthews, he does not hold himself out as representing any political or ideological group. And I'm sure he will not take kindly to being compared to someone like Rush.

This will be interesting.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:11 AM
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30. Matthews loves it when people talk about him. It gives his already fragile ego ........
a huge boost. It makes him feel important in the world of media commentary, although he does consider himself a journalist.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:41 PM
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46. Leave my Tweets and his minute ego alone....n/t
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:32 AM
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39. Hey, that was a blunder!
I didn't think of that. Keith and Chris will call him out on it.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:10 AM
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29. Considering he's a top GOP propaganda meister, WTH cares about what Newt says? Do you?
Edited on Sun Mar-08-09 11:11 AM by ClarkUSA
Chris Matthews is doing something right if Newt's after him.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:15 AM
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32. Newt's not after him, it was a rhetorical question in which he was attempting ...........
to make a very weak argument about Rush being their defacto leader.

The original question to Newt is something to the effect of "Is Rush your new party leader?"

Newt was trying to deflect the question without having to answer it. I found his comparison quite laughable.

Matthews is one of the worst pundits on TV.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:12 AM
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31. another question
Why is someone who is considering running for the 2012 nomination on a MTP panel without an equal? Do they do this with Dems too? I can only think of Huckabee being on the MTP panel last year.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:36 AM
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40. No, he doesn't help. Matthews is a slobbering loudmouth fool. nt
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:10 PM
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41. you used Newt and reason in the same post
what ever comes out of the mouth of the newt, you can be sure it was touched hop toads and worms. I don't ever treat anything out of his mouth as anything but to distort and cause dissension. Remember this guy put out a contract on America and his policies put our country in the dirt.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:13 PM
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42. Don't tell me you're taking the bait. He's trying to flip the "Rush is the Repub Party" line.
He's trying to make Tweety the "Rush" of the Democratic Party.

Don't play the game.

BTW...I like Matthews. He's had his show on MSNBC for many years because he's one of the best political pundits. He makes mistakes sometimes, but he's knowledgeable, interesting, a good interviewer, and entertaining. Which is what those pundit talk shows have to be.

He may be a Dem. I don't know. But he's a moderate, and calls it like he sees it, even when it's not a traditional Dem. Party view. That's what makes him legit.

If you want JUST the Dem. Party view, watch KO. I do. Very intersting. But not where I go to get facts and both sides.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:38 PM
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44. Well said
I also like Matthews. He is a moderate and has a good mix on his show. I personally know many right wing idiots who refuse to even watch CNN because they consider it too liberal. They are glued to Rush and Fox. Their views are void of any intelligence. As a progressive I want to listen to conservative views even though it increases my bp. Matthews often times gets hung up with the gossip but this doesn't make him unique. The bottom line for these guys is and always will be the ratings.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 01:57 PM
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53. im sorry but its a horrible lame attempt
chris matthews hasnt even came close to saying some of the koo koo bat shit crazy things rush has sad on air...

chris may have his own personal disorders to contend with, but being an egomaniac with narcissistic rage who only loves himself isnt one of them (unlike another talk show host).
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 02:26 PM
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56. You should read the New York Times Magazine article on Matthews ..........
True he is not narcissistic, but he is egotistical. His ego may be fragile, but it's quite huge.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:41 PM
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45. CM? He's bipolar or he has a split personality...Newt better leave him alone!! I love that guy! n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-08-09 12:43 PM by vaberella
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 01:11 PM
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47. Candace, Newt's sister is a bright, beautiful person and the only Gingrich...
deserving of attention!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 01:15 PM
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48. fuck newt...he's an arrogant gasbag...matthews is a show-host not a pol
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 01:50 PM
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49. Does Newt know That Chris Matthews voted for Bush?
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 02:27 PM
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57. What's even scarier is that Matthews voted for Rush, while he was employed by Carter. n/t
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 01:51 PM
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50. He isn't a DINO. He is just an idiot. nt
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 01:55 PM
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51. i didnt know christ matthews
was on the radio everyday making insane hateful batshit crazy statements.

what a horrible comparison.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 01:56 PM
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52. The attempt to make Tweety the Democratic Rush ain't gonna fly, Newtie. Try the 3/09 Talking Point.
Edited on Sun Mar-08-09 01:57 PM by WinkyDink
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 02:02 PM
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55. Chris Matthews is our Rush Limbaugh according to Gingrich?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 02:53 PM
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58. Tweety may have his moments
but i will defend him against the likes of Gingrich.

Matthews is a character. Sometimes funny, sometimes infuriating, but at heart a good man.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 02:55 PM
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60. Lol - Newt's describing himself. Nothing like a little projection.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 03:14 PM
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61. Are you kidding me?! newt just wants to change
the subject from rush limpbaughs..too bad. rush is the repuke party..not you, newt.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 03:28 PM
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63. Too bad his criticism of Rash is getting all of the attention...
Everything I have read on the subject is all about the new Gingrich-Limpballs feud, and speculation on if/when any apology might come. The comment he made about Tweety isn't even registering. Newt may be trying to change the subject, but bad-mouthing Rash isn't the way of going about it. There's no way Rash will take any criticism sitting down. Newtie just threw gasoline on the fire, IMO.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 03:32 PM
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64. Good..let 'em tear
each other apart.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 03:16 PM
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62. Matthews > Newt.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 03:36 PM
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65. Did Matthews tell a black caller to "take the bone out of your nose and call me back"?
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