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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:42 PM
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Friendly fire: NYT hits Obama
The leading liberal voices of the New York Times editorial pages all criticized—and, in some cases, clobbered—President Obama on Sunday for his handling of the economy and national security.

It's not unusual for Barack Obama to take a little friendly fire from the Times. But it's perhaps unprecedented for him to get hit on the same day by columnists Frank Rich, Thomas Friedman and Maureen Dowd—and in the paper's lead editorial. Their critique punctuated a weekend that started with a widely circulated blog post by Paul Krugman that said the president’s yet to be announced bank rescue plan would almost certainly fail.

The sentiment, coming just two months after the president was sworn in, reflects elite opinion in the Washington-New York corridor that Obama is increasingly overwhelmed, and not fully appreciative of the building tsunami of populist outrage.

Unlike with President Bush, the Obama administration is less apt to dismiss such commentary, at least publicly, as so much carping from an out-of-touch peanut gallery. These are voices that have been sympathetic, and at times gushing toward Obama, during the campaign and in his administration’s early days.

The president and his top aides read the Times closely and react quickly to its reporting and commentary. Tom Daschle, for example, withdrew from consideration as Health and Human Services Secretary amid back tax issues on the same day that the paper ran a tough front-page piece and editorial on what keeping Daschle would mean to the Obama brand.

So it likely caused some consternation this morning at the White House and at Camp David, where the president is staying this weekend, to pick up the Times and find:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20325.html
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:45 PM
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1. out of those columnists
listed, I take Krugman and Rich's opinions seriously, I could really leave Maureen Down and Friedman.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:58 PM
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6. same here
:hi:

Friedman and Dowd can go piss up a rope.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:01 PM
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8. I bet
that the Obama administration more or less agrees with us too, heh (I mean, they don't always do everything Krugman says, but I Think they respect Krugman and Rich, and know that Maureen Down is just silly).
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:03 PM
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9. Maureen Dowd relished in her role as Gore critic
she has a whole lot of making up to do.

Until then, fuck her.
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:11 PM
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11. Agreed
The NYT should get rid of Dowd. It ruins their credibility to have such a moronic person writing about a politician's hair/clothes and ignoring actually important stuff.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:45 PM
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2. Two of the three are credible
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 03:47 PM by Gman
Maureen Dowd lives in a different dimension than us. If I'm not mistaken, her sky is more a green color than our blue. However, leaves on trees are blue. THere's a few other differences.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:49 PM
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3. Damn PUMA New York Times!
Well, I hope someone gets through to him, because the advice he is getting is leading the Dems on the path to disaster.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 08:25 AM
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25. You got me!
From the subject line I thought this was a genuine "don't diss our President" post that we see so much here on DU.

Nice satire! ;o)
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asphalt.jungle Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:50 PM
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4. friendly fire? he just removed them from his shit list the other day
and allowed them to interview him. i doubt he regards them as a friendly source like bush did with the WSJ.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:56 PM
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5. I just re-read it
Of course Politico had to add the "at times gushing".
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:00 PM
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7. Whatever
It just kills the media that they've been unable to push a narrative against Obama that works. Note: I don't think the media has an anti-liberal agenda, just an anti-whoever's-in-charge agenda. Makes 'em feel important. But it isn't working, since nothing seems to be sticking. So they're trying this "Yea, sure he's popular. NOW. But just you wait! WE'll be right eventually! Keep us relevant! Please!

Whatever, Times, whatever. Just keep trying. Enjoy this week's 60 minutes and presidential prime time address. I"m sure everyone will get even angrier than they did after Leno! Not.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:10 PM
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10. The NYT has never been very Obama friendly.
Remember that whole "OBAMA CHANGED HIS POSITION ON IRAQ" nontroversy they fabricated during the General Election? They are just as bad as the rest of the press.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:13 PM
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12. true, but
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 04:14 PM by ErinBerin84
Huffington Post, which was pretty Obama friendly in the primaries, gave us the stupid "bittergate" comment, as recorded by their "citizen journalist", or whatever. But yes, I agree that Politico loves to shit stir. They probably think that Maureen Dowd is really liberal. As I said, I trust Krugman and RIch (though sometimes I disagree with them), but could definitely leave Dowd and Friedman out of it.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:23 PM
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13. Friedman is a "liberal" now?!?!?! That's funny! n/t
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:25 PM
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14. in Politico's skewed universe, lol.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:37 PM
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16. Now, that's satire!
:rofl:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:53 PM
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19. Give Friedman "6 more months" and he'll become liberal or something
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:25 PM
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15. Friendly?
More like columnists, than friends. Gee, when I want to tell a friend something I write them a letter, or call, or send a personal message. I don't go on the national media and compare them to the worst President in American history.



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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:41 PM
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17. ANOTHER POLITICO HIT PIECE!!! The critiques arent harsh and Krugman is arguing between better
...and best. "give it six more months" Friedman isn't a liberal and Dowd is partially right; Obama needs to put Bush and Cheney in jail and flog them personally with a whip that has hooks on it but we know that aint gonna happen.

Politico is makin a habbit of giving grandiose headlines to nothing.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:49 PM
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18. The Media are part of the Elites. Change is not exactly their cup of
tea. IMO, a subtle to not so subtle move is taking place.
All of a sudden, they want incremental change. Attacking
Obama , they hope will assist the GOP "Stop Obama now" agenda.

All the benefits of Society now go the elites. The Media is
part of the Elite. Change threatens their position.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:04 PM
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20. Anything that involves the heinous Maureen Dowd is not "friendly"
Once again Politico fails but that is nothing new.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 07:31 PM
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22. agreed. nt
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:49 PM
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21. Rich and Dowd helped get Bush elected
with their unfair pounding of Al Gore in 2000. Friedman was a cheerleader for the Iraq war (as way the NYT editorial page) and was 100% wrong in everything he said.

Krugman is the only one that has any credibility with me but sometimes I find that he lets his extreme ideology get in the of his analysis.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 06:56 AM
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23. Coming from politico, this is amusing.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 08:21 AM
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24. No big fan of Mo Dowd - but can see the point she is making
First of all I am aware that Maureen Dowd was guilty of mocking Al Gore and his campaign back in 2000, thereby helping W/Cheney/Rove to steal power.

But I can see the point she is making in her column in Sunday's NYT. Did y'all who are dissing her column actually read it?

She is saying that President Obama and Tim "Terrific Job" Geithner are failing to give the impression that they are on top of the whole banking crisis situation.

Maureen wishes that President Obama would show some of the direct forcefulness that is more often shown by the First Lady. So do I.


New York Times - March 22, 2009

Toxic R Us

By MAUREEN DOWD - Op-Ed Columnist

(...)

The tableau of Michelle Obama hoisting a pitchfork on Friday with her sinewy arms and warning that the commander in chief would be commandeered into yard work left me wondering if the wrong Obama is in the Oval.

It’s a time in America’s history where we need less smooth jazz and more martial brass.

Barack Obama prides himself on consensus, soothing warring sides into agreement. But the fury directed at the robber barons by the robbed blind in America has been getting hotter, not cooler. And that’s because the president and his Treasury secretary have been coddling the Wall Street elite, fretting that if they curtail executives’ pay and perks too much, if they make the negotiations with those who siphoned our 401(k)’s too tough, the spoiled Sherman McCoys will run away, the rescue plan will fail and the markets will wither. (...)

The shafters of the universe have been treated with such kid gloves that they remain obnoxiously oblivious. Vikram “Pandit the Bandit” at Citigroup, which received $50 billion in bailout money, is pulling a Thain, spending $10 million to renovate his Park Avenue offices, complete with a Sub-Zero refrigerator and premium millwork (whatever that is).

Fannie Mae, the mortgage finance behemoth that had $59 billion in losses last year when the government was forced to take it over, and since has asked for $15 billion in taxpayer money, brazenly intends to give $1 million apiece in retention bonuses to four top executives, even though the word retention in a depression is pure Ionesco. Freddie Mac, which has sought $45 billion in aid, has yet to disclose its planned bonuses.

Asked by Jay Leno why our loans to Wall Street haven’t trickled down to Main Street, President Obama conceded that the banks “haven’t started lending it yet.”

(...)

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/22/opinion/22dowd.html
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