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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:22 AM
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Conservative Critics Lobbing the F-bomb at President Obama. (Fascist)
Being president is haveing a target pasted on your back. Get ready for creative nastiness. It comes with the job. I do admire clever invective. Calling Obama a fascist isn't really clever, however. Hopefully the attacks will become more entertaining.



It took fewer than 100 days for conservative critics to start lobbing the F-bomb at President Obama.

"F" as in "fascist."

Take Glenn Beck, the bombastic Fox News host, who in recent weeks has repeatedly used the term - along with references to Mussolini and pictures of Hitler and Lenin - to describe Obama's efforts to revive struggling banks and automakers.

The American Spectator, a conservative publication, earlier this month ran an essay on Obama titled "Il Duce, Redux?"

Pundits escalate attacks against Obama



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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:32 AM
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1. Psychological Projection?
Edited on Sat Apr-11-09 12:32 AM by rwenos
Ya hafta wonder, hearing something as stupid as that. Maybe that Glenn Beck guy missed a few too many political theory lectures in college. Fabian socialism is about as far from fascism as political theories go.

But there's been quite an attempt by RW propagandists for awhile to link Hitler's "National Socialism" with American liberalism. Maybe there's a little projection going on there?

I guess they have to say SOMETHING. It's pitiful what they come up with though, eh?
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 05:45 AM
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6. That's exactly what it is - obviously, they don't even know what it means
My guess is they don't need to know it's meaning - just that FOX News said it
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:40 AM
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2. yea labels can carry things with them.
They get juiced up with years of anger or hate over real bad situations.

So people take the hate that is attached to the word, and try to pin it on other people.

The thing that is really interesting about labels, is they do not require bad action to be juiced with bad feelings, or ability to block thought.

for instance

years of people on the right, using the word Liberal with visible feel-able disdain, made the word have power when heard by people that listened to them. They literally primed the minds to react to the words like a hypnotic anchor. Then after that they can use the word to raise the anger and then even automatic agreement from the listener.

In a more spiritual sense, it almost has a spiritual element or spell casting element to it, since the word imbued with such disdain or hate, can be used to change the feelings or emotions in a very negative way, to someone who took in the anger or hate at a previous time.

Words can also be given good feelings.

Here are a few I like.

Hope,
Love,
Peace,
Integrity,
Honesty,
Togetherness,
Humility,
Character

For me just saying those words I start to think I am reading a story from King Arthurs court.

Its odd how that happens.

I think its important to make sure a label is applicable when used to describe something. Which means you have to stop and leave the emotion of the word, and think on its meaning and context to the intended target it is being attatched to. It needs an arguement along with it justifying or explaining its use before it can be allowed to be attached.

Labels can be used, and many times are used, as a devious method of mind control.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 03:11 AM
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3. It blows my mind
We just lived through eight years of a soulless, Constitution-destroying administration, that was also the most corrupt in history, and not a peep of protest. Now, Obama has been in office for less than three months, and they call him a fascist and compare him to Hitler, all because he wants rich people's tax rates to go back to what they were in the nineties. Unbelievable.
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 04:00 AM
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4. They don't even know what the word "fascism" means
from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist

Fascism is a radical, authoritarian nationalist ideology. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascists believe that nations and races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in combat against the weak. Fascist governments forbid and suppress all criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement.

* * *

The word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else... almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. – George Orwell, What is Fascism?. 1944
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:39 AM
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7. It is a sad fact that words are distorted to adapt to a meaning...
as opposed to being used properly as initially intended. It has been that way throughout time.

Socialism falls into the same category, as does patriot, Constitution, Bill of Rights and others...:(

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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 05:02 AM
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5. Glen beck is not conservative he is crazy
hmmm so is Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, Coulter, Hanity and too many others to list. Seems to be a pattern here.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:52 AM
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8. That's ironic...
I just now decided to stop posting at a liberal discussion board I had frequented for the past several years, because I got sick of all of the "Obama is the Friendly Face of Fascism" from some them. Seems some minds on the Left are just as made up as are the wingnuts that our President is a Fascist. It's sad when you can't tell the extremes from both sides apart anymore.

Obama is not perfect, by any means, but "fascist", he ain't.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 07:36 AM
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9. Glen Beck is a fascist. What is up with all the projection by RW nutballs. First Rove then Beck.
:freak: They are complete freaks.
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