Wow. What are Repubs going to do now? New Gallup Poll shows Obama has won the tax debate

According to a new Gallup survey.More Americans believe low-income taxpayers are paying their fare share to the federal government than at any point since 1994,

Forty-one percent of respondents told Gallup lower-income Americans pay their fair share in taxes, up 9 percent over last year’s number. Meanwhile, the proportion of respondents saying lower-income taxpayers are overburdened dropped from 51 percent to 39 percent.

Gallup’s suggested explanation? “The changes may reflect a response to Barack Obama's plans for federal income taxes. Obama has promised to cut taxes for low- and middle-income Americans, while raising taxes only on the wealthiest Americans. Most working Americans have already begun to receive a tax cut through lower withholding amounts in their paychecks -- a provision in the recently passed economic stimulus package.”

Upper-income Americans, however, are believed to pay too little in taxes by 60 percent of Americans.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/117472/Say-Low-Income-Americans-Paying-Fair-Share-Taxes.aspx

can change minds.

Jimmy Carter was flying pretty high in the first year of his term, and Bush the Elder was flying very high in the third year of his term. Things change rapidly these days of high information.

no longer work. Just look at the campaign

what I'm really talking about is the number of ways that people can get news. Jimmy Carter didn't have to deal with three 24/7 cable news channels looking to fill up time on slow news days. Bush the Elder didn't have to deal with the Internet.

Both media are ways that each of the political extremes gets to reinforce its preconceived viewpoints. At least during the Carter Administration, we were all reading the same Time and Newsweek magazines, and the same UPI and AP stories in our local newspapers. With Faux News, the right wingers have their own communications networks to effectively keep their people in line, reinforced by RimJob's Freeptard site.

No, they didn't make those things work for them last year. I attribute that to one big thing, each faction in the Repuke party tried to use the new media to make itself dominant over the others. The country-clubbers backed Giuliani, the fundies backed Huckabee, and the pro-war types backed McCain. Chimpy's major mistake was not taking a side early on, and having Darth Cheney resign so he could give one of the factions a leg up. In truth, he owed all of the factions equally, so he couldn't favor one of them over the other.

Rethugs might not make that mistake next time. Instead of a headless party 'led' by Bushco, they will be focused on getting President Obama out of office. It will unify them like they've not been since Reagan. Like I said, don't underestimate them.

And the amount of people who call themselves Republicans keeps shrinking.

The good thing about this new 'high information' era, is their lies can be debunked very quickly. I think we have to remember, that the more people are educated about policy, the more they tend to be Democrats.

but there is one other characteristic about what I like to call the 'mushy middle'. They really don't pay a damn bit of attention to politics, or anything else that's going on until the weekend before an election. Therefore, they are quite malleable, and the spinmeisters on both the progressive and the wingnut side know it.

The problem is, we have places spewing pure right wing propaganda 24/7. If the middle is feeling comfortable with their lives, they'll ignore it. If they are feeling uncomfortable, they really do want to have someone to blame, and they're far more likely to listen to the group that's out of power.

While it is wonderful to savor the victories the Democrats have had, I really find the comments of a permanent Democratic majority or the complete collapse of teh Republican party unlikely. Even after the devastating LBJ landslide, the Republicans were back 4 years later and in 2005 there was talk of the permanent Republican majority.

Nothing stays constant in politics, I remember the utter destruction that was the description of the Republican party in 1977, after an unknown small state governor beat Gerald Ford. Vietnam and Watergate had gutted American support for the Repukes, and they were leaderless, politically dead in the water.

Then came 1980, and they won three Presidential elections in a row. Americans have very short memories.

Funny how the numbers correspond to the fact the lowest 40% of earners do not pay income taxes, so I suppose they would poll as thinking they paid their "fair share", no? This poll just reflects the makeup of the progressive system. The upper 5% pay 59% of the total of all individual income tax.

So those upper 5% people will never poll as the majority, but we better hope they don't get tired of providing the bread and circuses for the other 95% = see NYC

*poke poke

the spelling is impressive though

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I suppose that wouldn't be too hard to believe although I'd think they'd go the other direction!

From the IRS.gov site:

"The top 50-percent group (earning $31,987 or more) accounted
for 87.5 percent of income and paid almost
all (97.0 percent) of the income tax for 2005."

So, 50% of Americans pay virtually all of the taxes. That leaves 50% who are surely happy with their tax rate.

More

"For 2006, returns in the top 5-percent group (returns
reporting AGI of $153,542 or more) reported
36.7 percent of total AGI and 60.1 percent of income
tax, compared to 35.7 percent and 59.7 percent,
respectively, for 2005 (when the AGI floor was
$145,283). For 2006, returns in the top 10-percent
group (returns with AGI of at least $108,904) earned
47.3 percent of AGI and paid 70.8 percent of income tax"


From: IRS.gov
page 12 & 13

Rightwingnuts; stupidest MFers on the planet.

Shouldn't you be teabagging?

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Republicants just can NOT catch a break :rofl:

but they really are in much deeper shit than Watergate long term. The demographics are driving them to extinction and they will have to do what the mere mention of causes them to running around like chickens with their heads cut off...CHANGE.

There is also a fairly clear lack of context in current times for much of their core ideas. Talk of cutting taxes and reducing spending in this economic environment is counter intuitive.

It is far from time to be dizzy with mandate glow, since just months ago we still had 46-47 percent of the electorate throw in their lots with McPhailin but their time is short without making substantive changes. If they don't watch out, in 20 years there will be no national Republican party to speak of.