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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:31 PM
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Did Dean really say "Bush is doing a fine job on the war on terrorism"?
Is this real? If it is why is Dean sending out flyers attacking Clark for praising *

Rate President Bush.

He's doing a fine job on the war on terrorism. I think he gets an F on domestic policy. I think the tax cut is irresponsible. His welfare proposal takes power away from the states and centralizes it in the federal government, as does his education bill. And he's done nothing on health care. So I find no redeeming social value in the president's domestic agenda.

http://www.gaypasg.org/Press%20Clippings/July%202002/Is%20It%202004%20Yet.htm
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:36 PM
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1. Yes, but this was before Iraq
and it was said after a lengthy litany of all that Bush had failed at or done wrong. It was added as an aside as one tries to find a good thing to say to someone who has just been beat silly.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:53 PM
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12. Afgahnistan was as MONSTROSITY as well. Bush deserves no credit
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:12 PM
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16. Clark was still a defense industry lobbyist then
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 04:14 PM by Capn Sunshine
or registered as such.
Any quotes available from HIM?

Other than " We're so lucky to have these guys running things?

or "how about that maximum killing capacity of this fine weapons system? The gov't should buy more immediately?

The preceeding quotes are speculation and satirical in nature.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:37 PM
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2. yes in July 2002 he said that --- that's why Madonna endorses Clark
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:38 PM
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3. July 14, 2002... Before the Iraq war Dean said the following

Why quote only the first line?


Rate President Bush.

He's doing a fine job on the war on terrorism. I think he gets an F on domestic policy. I think the tax cut is irresponsible. His welfare proposal takes power away from the states and centralizes it in the federal government, as does his education bill. And he's done nothing on health care. So I find no redeeming social value in the president's domestic agenda.



"Is this real? If it is why is Dean sending out flyers attacking Clark for praising *"

Because Dean's WHOLE quote was hardly complimentary and Dean didn't make his comments a republican fundraiser, only to turn around two years later and claim to be a democrat because he wanted to run for president.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:43 PM
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6. I wonder if Madonna read the whole quote, LOL!
:eyes:

thanks Hawk, I had not seen that whole quote either.... not surprising that the Clark people choose not to post it.
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:40 PM
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4. So Dean said this way after Clark's words?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:43 PM
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5. Kerry was criticizing Bush
That's what was going on at the time of those statements. Kerry was taking it to Bush on Tora Bora and al qaeda so of course Dean had to say the opposite. During that same time, he also said our Democrats shouldn't criticize the President in a time of war. He's a total fraud.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:50 PM
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10. Well... he IS a doctor, but quite fraudulent as a Democrat
but who can tell? Especially with muzzle now firmly attached by the handlers.
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:55 PM
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13. you can't muzzle a straight talker. You mean Dean isn't a straight talker?
they said he was
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:44 PM
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7. How can Dean praise * and pretend to be a democrat
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:48 PM
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8. The Whole
“As far as domestic policy is concerned, I can’t think of anything he’s done that I agree with,” Dean said, according to David Broder, of the Washington Post, in late June, at a kaffeeklatsch of ten Democrats in Waterloo, Iowa. Broder wrote that Dean “added, almost as a throwaway line, ‘I think he’s done a good job on the war on terrorism.’”

Let's also remember Dean has been working with the party back offices since Jimmy Carter and has served the party in several official capacities. What has Clark done for the party?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:51 PM
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11. thanks for showing it in context
He was right on about Bush's domestic policy being :thumbsdown:, but I don't like how Bush has conducted the war on terror, yes we did have a coalition in Afghanstan but it hasn't been pretty there.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:22 PM
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18. Implemented Clinton's foreign policy
In Bosnia and Kosovo. Supported gays in the military, as much as don't ask, don't tell is a disaster. Probably implemented numerous Democratic policies in the military including increasing women's role in the military. I'm sure a thorough review of Clark's record would show consistent support for Democratic positions over the years.
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:49 PM
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9. * never did a fine job on Terrorism. Why did Dean say he did
?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:01 PM
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15. Why do you support Clark then?
"I tremendously admire, and I think we all should, the great work done by our commander-in-chief, our president, George Bush," - Clark January 2002
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:15 PM
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17. clark isn't sending out hypocritical flyers but he should
nt
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:57 PM
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14. What was Clarks view of the war on Terrorism in July 2002?
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:27 PM
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19. Really tiresome
I'm an ardent Clark supporter but I'm just as tired of these mindless, out-of-context quote-slinging posts against Dean as I am those against Clark. And if someone uses the lame "well, they did it" excuse again, they're grounded.

You'd think a few folks would start developing some sense of shame after months of this crap -- behaving like the worst of our enemy isn't justified against ANY Democratic candidate at ANY time no matter how much you really, really, really like your candidate.

Ok, I got that out of my system for now.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:34 PM
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20. Me too n/t
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