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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:39 AM
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Cantor: 'We've got a lot to learn' from Obama
Cantor: 'We've got a lot to learn' from Obama
Posted: 09:27 AM ET

(CNN) — House Minority Whip Eric Cantor tells CNN's John King that the GOP still has a lot to learn from President Obama.

"President Obama is a great communicator. We understand that," he said in an interview that aired on CNN's State of the Union Sunday. "He's also been very adept at adopting the technology of today to access the youth vote and the younger population of this country. That's the future, and I believe we've got a lot to learn. The Republican Party can't keep doing things the way it always has in terms of technology."

Cantor, along with former Floria Gov. Jeb Bush and former GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney, held the kick off event Saturday for the National Council for a New America, a high-profile Republican effort to engage a diverse group of voters.

One new GOP face who seems to disagree with Cantor's point of view: Meghan McCain, whose father John McCain is involved with the NCNA effort.

"Simply embracing technology isn't going to fix our problem," the 24-year-old told a gay Republican group last month. "Republicans using Twitter and Facebook isn't going to miraculously make people think we're cool again. Breaking free from obsolete positions and providing real solutions that don't divide our nation further will."

The NCNA is planning to hold a series of town halls across the country in the coming months in an effort to re-cast the party’s image.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/03/cantor-weve-got-a-lot-to-learn-from-obama/
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:47 AM
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1. Just a hint Eric on the Youth Vote
The youth aren't as stupid as you guys think. Barack Obama wooped your ass in that demographic because his goal was for more education, a cleaner environment, not sending them to die in fruitless wars, and more jobs in this country.

You guys have nothing to sell the Youth Vote.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:27 AM
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5. obama has 2 fruitless wars going on now with a possible third on the way nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:04 PM
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14. All inherited from Republicans, including the fucked up mess in Pakistan.....
and it will take more than a 100 days to get all of that wrapped up.....but then, you and your predictable one line attacks.....knew that. :eyes:
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WyldRogue Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:11 PM
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18. Bullseye!
Edited on Sun May-03-09 01:12 PM by WyldRogue
"All inherited from Republicans, including the fucked up mess in Pakistan..... and it will take more than a 100 days to get all of that wrapped up"



How right your are and how short-term memory that alot of people seem to have as of late. I too am critical of Obama and some of his appointments and lack of justice when it is apparent that crimes have been committed but the man has his hands full with the Repugs obstructing, 12 Dem Senators in the back pocket of Big Banks and standing with the Repugs, an economy that needs serious work to fix after 8 years of unfettered Repug rule, and a hypocritical/complacent base.

Unlike 43, I stand FULLY behind Obama(44) and am ready to roll up my sleeves to help him repair our country as it will be aq valid sacrifice on my part to help weather the impending 'storm' we ALL face.

Thank you for your post FC :)
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:26 PM
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19. Sickem Girl!!
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:49 AM
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2. It's the ideas, stupid
The GOP twits can twitter all they want but until they actually
have a positive strategy, they're totally fucked.

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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:21 AM
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3. They still don't get it. Good!
Edited on Sun May-03-09 09:21 AM by liberalmuse
The day they begin embracing the likes of Meghan McCain and Jon Huntsman is the day I start getting nervous about them becoming a viable party again. The main thing that makes me nervous about this current bunch is they bring out the batshit in their supporters, and it's become a safety issue, but the good news is, if they keep it up, they won't be much of a contender.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:48 AM
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10. Meghan can't articulate reThug positions at all but she's not batshit and she's tolerant which...
...makes her more of a threat to the GOP montra for the last 2 generations of those who aren't like us are against us.

Them listening to Huntsman or M McCain means the lose their base.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:53 PM
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29. That's the irony.
WIthout listening to them, the base is all that they'll have.

Alas...
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:21 AM
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4. That's it, Eric!
Hold a Twitter seminar! Do it, please. Throw all that hate, fear and extremism out there for the world to see! Again, do it, please!
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:48 AM
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6. The good news for us is that while Eric gets part of the picture and Meghan gets the other,
i.e. that the Republicans both need to get with the program technologically and update their outdated ideological software, the advice of both of them will be dismissed out of hand by the Old Guard. They don't want to be tweeting about the OK-ness of gay marriage or friending people who believe in trickle-up economic solutions. They want to go back to the old days, when all they had to do was send out a postal blast or use their phone tree to tell everyone "It looks like State X might legalize gay marriage--PLEASE SEND US MONEY TO HELP STOP IT!" and the checks would pour in.

Those days are gone--and it's not just because of the Internets.

The good news? Most of them don't want to admit it.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:58 AM
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7. Well, Dammit, Cantor's right. They got a lot to learn from us.
Unfortunately Cantor isn't exactly right about WHAT they need to learn from us.

They can start with compassion, empathy, and a concern for ordinary people. A decent respect for human rights. Stuff like that.

They nned to learn all those things that, if they actually learned them, would cause them to cease being Republicans.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:06 AM
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8. Eric, Eric....it's not your sales technique, but the fact that you have
very little to sell and nobody who will buy it.
Re-packaged bullshit is still bullshit.

mark
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:14 AM
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9. Wow, Meghan McCain is right--and no one's going to listen to her either.
Which is good for us.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:57 AM
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11. Yeah, you right-wingers should be spewing hatred in more high-tech ways!
:sarcasm:
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:09 AM
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12. Talk radio has produced an army of astroturfers who embarrass themselves everytime they venture onto
web 2.0 and begin typing.

I do battle with them daily on an MSM in a specific media market not because I think they will change their minds, but because I know moderate lurkers are reading what I write and comparing it to dittoheads spewing misinformation and hatefulness, and more often than not obnoxious rudeness.

Who knew Rush teaching them to have no manners whould be so useful?

PM me if you want info on how to join my group. We have a secret page on Face Book for sharing our best posts.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:56 AM
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13. Cantor...that's PRESIDENT Obama to you!
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:12 PM
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15. Obama has empathy and compassion, Eric
Coupled with nearly unmatched intelligence and charisma. That's not something you learn. You either have it or you don't. And most Republicans just don't.

Good luck with that tech thingie though.

:rofl:


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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:55 PM
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16. Out Of The Mouths Of Boobs...
:evilgrin:

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MzShellG Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:42 PM
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21. So true...lol. nt
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:11 PM
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17. have you seen the "Rebuild the Party" website? similar plan
http://www.rebuildtheparty.com/plan


It's all about getting on the internets. No ideas about any issues.

My god, they are so clueless
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:52 PM
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28. For the Republicans, it's all about how things LOOK, not substance,
which they obviously have little of.

Just like Bush and his insistence on people being on time, and wearing suits, etc. He figured as long as they looked the part of a responsible party, no one would notice how incredibly fucked up things were.

They're still playing that game, and haven't figured out that people just don't buy it.

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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:34 PM
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20. This is their rationalizing, make-themselves-feel-better answer
It's because of the "communication" of the message and not the message itself. If only johnmaccain.com would have been like barackobama.com everything would be different today.

What's a shame is that they have been so bad on both fronts, the communication and the message, that it's not much of a stretch to bleive this. Look at the Jindal rebuttal. Look at Obama's campaign versus McCain's. I think they will continue to comfort themselves with this idea until about November 7, 2012.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:44 PM
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22. cantor is yearning for
more savvy ways to sell his bullshit and he's not going to learn what he needs from Prez Obama.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:58 PM
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23. This is One Thing cantor and his ilk won't be
learning from P Obama!

<snip>

"The polling tells you something important. His approval ratings have actually gone up since he took office. Take away the party labels and, in the latest Gallup poll, Obama is winning the support of 90% of liberals with 7% against but, much more significantly, he is winning self-described “moderates” by a massive 73% to 19%. Even conservatives are split on him — with 42% approving and 53% disapproving; 41% of weekly church-goers approved of him just before the election — and now that number has risen to 57%. That’s a direct hit at the core Republican appeal.

In the critical battle for image and comfort, Obama has trounced his opponents without aggressively attacking them. And they have done themselves in, to a large extent, by prematurely attacking him. Few events revealed this as starkly as the veteran Republican senator Arlen Specter’s decision last week to become a Democrat."

<more>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8388324
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:01 PM
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24. I actually saw him and his crew on C-Span - Mittens and Jeb.
Jeb was saying practically word for word Obama's plans for education.
Unbelievable!

(We can't compete in a global market if other countries are doing better than us in science and math)

The party of no new ideas.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:01 PM
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25. Funny - but I see no mention of FAILED REPUKE POLICIES anywhere...
must be a "misunderstanding" again...
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:26 PM
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26. Learning how to blog or Twitter "TAX CUTS WILL FIX ALL" isn't going
to do a damn thing except expose your being out of touch faster.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:51 PM
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27. It still boggles my mind how someone who's gay can be a Republican...
...I just don't see it. Their positions seems so far removed.
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