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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 01:48 PM
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Corporate Media kissing the Left's ass today! How Neato!
Seems like when the Left disagrees with the Prez, the media likes to quote them a lot.

I'm watching CNN's correspondent taking Press Sec. to task for Obama's "Broken" promises.....
without discussing the real subject at hand; the changes made to the tribunal.

Seems like what is important as a news story is that the Left are mad at Pres. Obama.

Oh yeah....and most of the Corporate media is busy shouting how that Nancy Pelosi is somehow less than credible.....and in Hot water...
No mention of the testimony by CIA interrogator who testified in the Hearing that the Mainstream media didn't bother to air.....while they continue to skewer Nancy Pelosi.

.....nothing else seems to matter.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:03 PM
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1. It appears that the Left is falling for MSM fucked up distractions once again.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:05 PM
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2. Well... if it makes them feel more leftier... isn't that what's important?
Do facts and reality even matter?

The M$M said he broke promises! So what if he didn't make any such promises... it feels good to be leftier than left, dammit!

:banghead:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:56 PM
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8. If only we had you to guide us through it all.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:57 PM
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9. Maybe there's some feed where we can get 24/7 interpretation by the Oracle.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 03:40 PM
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11. I do try, don't I?
It won't be the first thing I'm right about, either.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:03 PM
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16. You're right about a lot of things.
That's why it's been so sad watching you turn into a 20 percenter before our very eyes. :shrug:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:10 PM
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18. 20% of what?
I tend to hold my opinions oblivious of poll results.

The media is playing us, and you will come to that realization shortly, if you haven't already.

That's what this OP is about....and you know it.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:22 PM
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22. The 20% of each party that feels their President does no wrong.
I have yet to see you acknowledge any criticism of Obama as valid. He's a very good man in a hard spot, but he isn't always right, and while he's already done many good things, he's also done some that flat out suck. Some of the criticism is dumb, but some of it isn't either. You seem to make zero effort to differentiate between the two. Granted, I can't read all your posts, but I'm here a lot and I read a lot, and I have yet to see you even try to make that distinction.

And it wouldn't bother me if I didn't respect you. I fully expected that when a Democrat won this would happen to some...it did when Clinton won as well in the 90's. I just saw you as being able to see through that kind of stuff, and it's been very disheartening to see you among those that took that route.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:10 PM
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23. Oh....He's wrong on a few things.......
I don't necessarily agree with his faith based initiatives and I think he should be bolder on establishing relations with Cuba. His stance on Gay marriage and not doing anything about DADT in reference to the current firings are two others. I really don't like the fact that the needle exchange program seems to be a problem with him, and I would have preferred had he insisted on more infrastruture in his stimulus package. I also pray that his approach of supporting a public health option on health Care reform will not be as weak as it currently looks now, but it is far too soon for me to say.

However, I understand why he might do what he does, although I don't agree with it, and therein lies the difference, I guess. See, when I disagree, I'll post my position or maybe not depending on how much flak he is getting. You see, I don't see it as my job to pile on. His job is hard enough already. I'll usually write a letter to the WH, and whomever else I think could help sway opinion, and then I move on to something else. In otherwords, I don't snark in every OP that I see that supports my displeasure just because I can.

I am not a skeptic by nature, but I am more wary of the Media than any other institution in this country. That is why most of my OPs have something to do with the media as the villain than any other entity....even Republicans. The reason being that if we had a Just and Fair media in this country, a whole lot of our problems would not be problems. So, given the media that Pres. Obama has to work with, I therefore sympathize with how Pres. Obama feels compeled to operate, although sometimes I feel that I have a better way....but at the same time, I damn well know that when it comes to navigating against the enemy, I don't have a better idea, I just think I do. In fact, some of my initial inklings on how he could improve were proven wrong time and time again during the primaries.....by the results yielded by his actions and reactions, not some much because I think he is right about everything.

Yes, I think that Barack Obama is probably the finest Politician that has come around in a long time, and exactly because I realize what he is up against...it is for those reasons that I do not wish him failure in his endeavor, and do not pile on every chance I can.



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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:54 PM
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25. Thank you for this post.
Edited on Fri May-15-09 06:57 PM by Forkboy
It definitely helps clarify your position and thinking, and I appreciate that.

I don't snark in every OP that I see that supports my displeasure just because I can.

Some people do this, to be sure, but many of the people who criticize aren't being snarky, and they aren't doing it "just because they can". On the gay rights issue it's especially easy for those of us with full rights to minimize their concerns, and I still wonder if you see how often Obama's more ardent supporters do that here. If they're impatient I don't blame them, and personally if Obama (or you) see that as piling on then, to be blunt, that's just too bad. This is, and has been, Obama's weakest point all along, and I have little patience on this issue, and I'm not gay. I can only imagine how they feel. Yes, his job is hard enough already, but not as hard as the lives of many of those he's holding off on giving full equality to. Actions like that make his job even harder, and that's his fault, not the fault of those criticizing him for it.

And I understand why he does some of the things he does as well, but that doesn't make them any more correct. Understanding why someone is wrong doesn't change the fact that they're still wrong. And when a president is wrong (or even if someone just thinks the president is wrong) the only options we have is to speak out, or wait 4 years and hope for someone who supports their beliefs better. Democracy in action isn't piling on, it's the only avenue we have to try to affect some change.

I also understand all too well the enemy he is up against, which makes his foot dragging on issues many of his voters believed in all the more confusing. He needs all the allies he can get, so treating a large segment of people who support him as politically unviable is hardly a smart way to shore up your flanks.

Again, I do appreciate your post here, and I retract and apologize for my 20% comment.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:11 PM
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19. Sounds more like the MSM is fucking up the critiques of the "Left".
I'll have to see if I can find what all you're talking about to watch... but from where I'm sitting it sounds more like the "Left" is, for once, actually being listened to by the MSM. Maybe they're misinterpreting some of what's being said... but the hassle sounds like a good thing to me, on balance.

Obama's "coalition" includes the "Left". If the "Left" is expected to just shut the hell up whenever "we" have issue with what DC is doing... then it sounds like "we're" being pushed out of the coalition. Maybe it would be better for Obama to spend a little more energy reaching back to some on his own side of the aisle, rather than spending all his attention reaching across to the "Right"?
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:05 PM
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3. They dont' care about facts all they care about is creating an imagined "rift"
creating a story. MSM's been forever searching for that "A-HA WE'VE GOT HIM NOW MOMENT" couldn't do it with the Right now hopefully for them it'll come from the Left.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:10 PM
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4. I called & emailed CNN and MSNBC complaining about their LACK of coverage of Ali Soufan
in favor of their non-stop Pelosi coverage.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:42 PM
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5. I did too! But there aren't enough of us doing it.....
Too many busy calling Pelosi a War Criminal and Obama=Bush to get it done.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:46 PM
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7. You're right...
I wish you weren't, but you are. It's obvious by the threads that are getting the most action. Too bad we Dems. seem to be in a circular firing squad.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:45 PM
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6. I don't know I went down to Channel 10 and told them that you said they were kissing
Left's ass but they refused to comply.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 03:02 PM
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10. No surprise. The only time Krugman is relevant is when he criticizes Obama
Anyone surprised?
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 03:41 PM
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12. the media feeds off conflict, because it = juicy stories, which = ratings
bottom line.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 03:48 PM
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14. Really, it is all about conflict
Like if waterboarding is torture?

Is torture wrong?

Did the former President ever claim torture is wrong?

Is waterboarding, by definition, a crime?

Does chEEney have a history of lying?

Because what I am seeing is blitz of what did Nancy know, and when did she know it? Did she make contradictory statements?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 03:59 PM
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15. It's all about agenda.......
and not very well hidden ones at that!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 03:42 PM
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13. He has seem to have been "disappeared" lately hasn't he?
Media toys.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:14 PM
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21. He's been in China.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:07 PM
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17. YEah, we were the fringe when bushco took
over. They're not fooling anybody.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:13 PM
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20. The corporate media hasn't changed its stripe- and never will
unless and until they're decondsolidated and re-regulated.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:12 PM
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24. And I am waiting for that day,
and I hope that this is part of Pres. Obama's agenda. In fact, I pray that it is.
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