I Am SO Disappointed that Obama is NOT Being the Uber-Progressive I had Imagined He Would BE!!!

He promised change, where's my change?

Disclaimer: This Du member is a supporter of the new administration and believes that he is doing a fantastic job with an enormous mess.

He's acting more and more like the Corporate Democrat I saw here in Illinois.

It is un-fucking-believable, I tell ya!

Then are you saying he is the first black President Bush?

I actually think he's a realist in his administration of what are relatively idealistic goals.

Now, as our economy and democracy are in such jeopardy of never returning to anything close to fair, just fixing things will be a miracle.

But while some would prefer a strong and vocal progressive platform (that would probably only see 10% of it's planks laid), we have a president who recognizes that getting things done requires building consensus and, unfortunately, some compromise.

I'd rather have a realist with values getting things done than a progressive idealist that gets very little done.

and he's acting more and more like a blankety-blank every day..What Corporate Democrat did you see in Illinois? Some inside view you care to share?

Who was he? We didn't know much about him. We knew he could give rousing speeches. But was he a person of principle? Would he stand up and fight for what he believed in? Did he believe in anything? These were the unknowns. Sadly, the blanks are being filled in. All we have found out is he can still give a good speech.

In fact I argued with people right on this forum about that before he was even nominated.

I did hope he would keep his promises. But he isn't doing well on that front lately.

He is, at the end of the day, a politician.

That was the worst I ever said about him but it's true.

Now, for a politician, he is better than most of them and really the best we can get in office.

Love him or hate him or anywhere in between, he asked us to work WITH him and that means writing to him, to congress, to participate in this democracy.

Remember the gas tax concept last summer?

He stood solidly on the right side of that issue, he's a politician sure, but he's not a big fat liar.

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...the teevee says he's an over-the-top leftist, so he MUST be progressive!

:sarcasm:

Striking a healthy balance is the ticket, I think. :P

Them?

look what we got:patriot::fistbump:

...to think Obama was going to push for Single Payer (mandatory) and other "progressive" things that he clearly did not support.

Some of us were paying attention.

And, like you, 18 months ago I set my sights so high as to think that this man could do it and I studied him then poured my energy and money into getting him elected.

And he hasn't disappointed me at all.

:toast:

will be!

:shrug:

or that they can be changed.

I think the same dynamic might be at work here, projecting unrealistic expectations on the president.

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that Obama is attempting to be the President of ALL the people. The nerve of the man....


BTW:
Have I ever mentioned my weakness for fur-covered critters with big ears? :)

Or did you mean my avatar, Ginny?

:P

Yeah, huh, president of all Americans, what the hell is he thinking???

I never thought he was Dennis Kucinich or an updated version of Ralph Nader.

That's a very good way to describe him and his approach. :) And I think that anyone who is shocked that he's not a Kucinich type clearly wasn't paying very close attention to most of his speeches during the campaign...

don't really know what a progressive is. Not to mention going after Corporate Tax Havens

Now you can be upset with him over prosecuting Bush officials or even releasing photos. But Obama is clearly the most Progressive President we've ever had. The budget and the stimulus package is nothing but a Progressive Agenda.

...I'm not upset, not disappointed. I agree with you, I'm snarking the detractors with a very tongue-in-cheek Friday rant.

And I'll bet by the time he's done he'll have done more to restore the middle class than any other likely candidate could or would have.

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on edit: typo

he is the smartest man in the room, playing chess while everyone else is shooting marbles.

Cut him some slack! It's not like he's actually even done anything yet!

:P

I was hoping he'd at least throw a bone now and then to the people who worked so hard to get him elected.

I always figured he'd date rape us -- I was just hoping we'd get dinner first.

This board is hopped up on raging :wtf:S who are equating Prez Obama to bush and only succeeding in making themselves look stupid.:nuke:

*Cardinals Fan*



:P

That doesn't mean I didn't bitch about it.

My opinions on politicians and the actions they take are based on what they do, not my expectations.

As long as the banks have enough money to issue me another credit card...

not enough clear sarcasm identifiers"

I'd hoped for humorous replies...

Have a good weekend, I have to work...

Not because it's progressive or regressive.

Perhaps the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Cute bunny by the way.

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:hi:

Howya doin?

:hi:

Read this, I love this DU member...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8410362

Otherwise why erect strawman arguments? Why this condescension? Why the disdain? Why the unsubtle hint that those disagreeing with you are freepers? Can you make a cogent argument, or are you just bullying?

I'll tell you who a freeper is. You don't become a freeper by being conservative or by voting Republican. Or by bad spelling. You become one by willfully denying reason and ignoring facts, by clearly being a heartless, sociopathic bastard like Bush was (think of his WMD joke and many other instances), and by exhibiting a blind, rah-rah allegiance to your leader just because he's your leader.

Are you a freeper?

Check this out. It's on Obama's record now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8410362

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but reichwing bullshit like has gone on this past week is beyond the pale.

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Should lie to rest the pretention that he is (or ever was) an "Uber-Progressive". He is clearly, at least to me, more centrist to left-of-center but, more importantly, he seems very pragmatic (i.e. isn't going to just make decisions just because he thinks that what will win him the most "brownie points" with some group or another, particularly if he ultimately believes that it's not the right one). So far, I have found most of his decisions to be informed and well thought out, which is why I'm usually more supportive of him than not but even when I don't necessarily agree with him, I feel confident, unlike with Bush, that he arrived at his decision only after thorough consideration of the given issue.

He's fine...I just don't know why so many people are upset that he isn't Kucinich.