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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:12 PM
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Question: Do you really believe that torture was administered only under the Bush administration?!
Do you really believe it's a novel thing?
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:17 PM
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1. No. I know it has happened in the past and I want it stopped. n/t
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:18 PM
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2. The Canadians do it all the time dont they?
KIDDING!!!!!! :)
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:39 PM
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3. Torturing Canadians is easy
Put a six pack of Bud in front of them and make them drink it.

Seriously, no I don't believe it just started, I do believe it reached epidemic proportions under chEEney.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:42 PM
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4. Actually we`re a bit more resilient than what you think.
You need at least a 12 pack :P
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:46 AM
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11. Take away their donuts.
Close down all the Tim Hortons immediately and watch them beg for mercy, eh? :evilgrin:
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:44 PM
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5. Are we counting training centers in the School of the Americas?
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:37 AM
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6. You mean torture by proxy, or in other words, I`m the devil I only told you what to do, never forced
you to do it.

Yeah lets ignore that for now.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:45 AM
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7. The rollback of torture rights started under Big Dog.
...as did the rollback on wiretaps.

I think both went *too far* under shrub, but the mentality of using "extreme measures" to "fight terrorism" dates back to issues faced in the 90's.

Of course, nobody cared back then, because the Clenis was more important.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:49 AM
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8. No. I don't think it was a novel thing or just under Bush. Internment....
Comes to mind when I think torture, or cases there of.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:33 AM
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9. Of course not.
Bush did not start it and Obama won't end it. You're just not supposed to be so blatant about it. You don't go around trumpeting that you're doing it and that it's good.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:44 AM
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10. It's standard practice to joke about what will happen to people imprisoned in America.
They're expected to become somebody's bitch, right?

That means rape. Rape is sexual, physical and psychological torture.

For decades, this has been going on in American prisons. Don't tell me there's no way to put a stop to this institutionalized torture. As other, more civilized nations have demonstrated, it can be done. The social climate is pivotal here.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:57 AM
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12. As a Presidential directive to the CIA, probably yes
Some of the things we did to the Native Americans in the 19th century certainly could constitute torture.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 03:15 AM
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13. Yes.
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