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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:30 PM
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Steele: Same-sex couples don't deserve equal rights because it will burden businesses.
RNC chief: Gay marriage will burden small business
By RUSS BYNUM, Associated Press Writer Russ Bynum, Associated Press Writer



SAVANNAH, Ga. – Republicans can reach a broader base by recasting gay marriage as an issue that could dent pocketbooks as small businesses spend more on health care and other benefits, GOP Chairman Michael Steele said Saturday.

Steele said that was just an example of how the party can retool its message to appeal to young voters and minorities without sacrificing core conservative principles. Steele said he used the argument weeks ago while chatting on a flight with a college student who described herself as fiscally conservative but socially liberal on issues like gay marriage.

"Now all of a sudden I've got someone who wasn't a spouse before, that I had no responsibility for, who is now getting claimed as a spouse that I now have financial responsibility for," Steele told Republicans at the state convention in traditionally conservative Georgia. "So how do I pay for that? Who pays for that? You just cost me money."

As Steele talked about ways the party could position itself, he also poked fun at his previous pledge to give the GOP a "hip-hop makeover."

"You don't have to wear your pants cut down here or the big bling," he said.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090516/ap_on_re_us/us_steele_republicans
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:31 PM
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1. He gets nuttier by the week. n/t
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:31 PM
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2. so lets remove the burden entirely and not provide it to
Edited on Sat May-16-09 12:32 PM by Fresh_Start
straight couples either. After all, its business not people who matter.
:sarcasm:
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:33 PM
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3. When the businesses budget for a full time position, the benefits are included.
If they happen to "get lucky" and hire a single person, the company makes a few bucks because they don't have to pay family benefits. I guess any business could save money by not hiring people with dependents!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:34 PM
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4. This is the weakest argument to date
Steele is a bottomless well of nonsense.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:36 PM
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5. Another thought!
Steele's reasoning is a great endorsement of national health insurance. Then all of the businesses won't have to worry about health benefits.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:37 PM
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7. Yes.
I like it. It's not just a solid political talking point but it makes absolute sense. :thumbsup:
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:55 PM
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31. That was the first thing I thought when I heard this comment
I said to myself "This is going to be the Republican own goal of the week. Instead of turning small business owners against teh gayz, it's more likely to make them wonder why they are being crippled by their employees' healthcare costs".
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:37 PM
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6. He is vile.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:38 PM
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8. Gee. Good thing for him someone wasn't concerned with that when black people were given equal rights
Astounding.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:39 PM
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12. Indeed. Bring back slavery! It's GREAT for business!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:26 PM
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27. Seconded! A living wage is just way too much for businesses to cope with!
Let's use Mikey as a guinea pig too...
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:44 PM
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29. Lets bring it back but only for Michael Steele.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:52 PM
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20. Someone was. I heard the same tired stupid argument about blacks, then women.
Hurts business? Boo-fucking-hoo.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:38 PM
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9. Only in the Republican world...
...can complete deference to the interests of Business be considered a new twist on their message.

Someone should ask Steele if slavery should be reinstated. That would be GREAT for business.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:39 PM
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10. We can fix that, too.
Fixing health care properly would fix that problem.

So can we count on Mr. Genius Steele to advocate for universal single-payer health care now and relieve businesses of their crushing health care burden?

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sarah553807 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:39 PM
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11. If I ever see this asswipe around my neighborhood
Edited on Sat May-16-09 12:40 PM by sarah553807
somebody will have to hold me back
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:40 PM
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13. As it is paying women same as men, and paying Blacks same as Whites
Edited on Sat May-16-09 12:40 PM by IndianaGreen
Steele forgot to wear his sheets.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:40 PM
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14. The truth is that Steele is just not bright.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:42 PM
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15. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
Part of me wants him to shut up, because it's just too painful to listen.

But the pragmatic side of me hopes he keeps it up because he's helping destroy the GOP in its current incarnation.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:47 PM
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19. He'll be on Meet the Press tomorrow and it'll be fun watching him try to spin this...
If "ToolBox" Gregory actually pretends to be a real journalist.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:55 PM
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21. Yeah...
If "ToolBox" Gregory actually pretends to be a real journalist.


I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:43 PM
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16. christian marriages are WAY more likely to burden small businesses actually because
there's WAY more of them.

Msongs
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:44 PM
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17. fuck you steele
Edited on Sat May-16-09 12:46 PM by varun
and what about the benefits to minorities like you? Should we take them away to save money?
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:45 PM
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18. Ya think
anyone reminded Steele that people "suddenly have a new spouse" on pretty much a daily basis when hetero couples marry?

I swear he was an embarassment to Maryland and that trend continues as the leader of a political party. He's pathetic.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:56 PM
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22. And this is worse than "God is in the mix" in exactly what way? n/t
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:03 PM
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23. Oh well, I guess Gays aren't real people.
Edited on Sat May-16-09 01:03 PM by Thrill
:crazy:
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:06 PM
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24. Huh???? I'm glad he's on the other side!! Damn, how dense
can you be?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:20 PM
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25. Then unburden ALL the businesses. Give us universal health care
with a Medicare like option.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:25 PM
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26. Gee, insane health care and insurance costs aren't?
$20 for an aspirin when I can buy a case of the, 1800x more, for the same price...;

Look around, Mikey, there are many examples of what's tantamount to theft.

Why are you so strung up on gays?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:33 PM
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28. Wow. That's pretty fucking stupid even for Republicans.
Usually the at least cloak their idiocy in something that somebody could find credible.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:48 PM
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30. Steele playing mad libs. ________ is bad policy because it burdens small businesses.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:59 PM
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32. OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE keep staying stupid shit like this nm
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:16 PM
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34. PLEASE... SOMEONE HELP THEM..
Remind Mr. Steele that it cost a lot of "white folks" money when they were no longer allowed to hold black people as slaves. All of a sudden those white folks had to go out and HIRE AND PAY people to pick crops, garden, dig, etc. It was a horrible burden on business.. the cost of something made out of cotton that used to be picked for free just SKYROCKETED.

I'm sure we can all agree that going back to the days of slavery would certainly be benificial to BUSINESS.. but that sure as FUCK DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT.

Seriously, what in the hell is wrong with that guy? Hell, with the entire freaking party?

:spank: :spank: :spank:
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:45 PM
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35. Blanket answer to those who think employers should cover healthcare: why do you hate business?
This republican-sounding phrase should be shoved down their throats with incessant repetition.

I still hold to the belief that someday we WILL get socialized medicine, and it will be given to us by the conservatives. They'll wise up and realize that they're at an extreme disadvantage competing against foreign manufacturers who don't have to cover this extra cost when selling their goods in third-world markets.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:48 PM
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36. OMG. He's right!
We need to ban marriage entirely! It hurts small business. We also need to ban employees having children. :sarcasm:
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