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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 03:22 PM
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"We must always harbor a certain amount of doubt"
That's a really wise thing to say. It's something I've been trying to learn for all of my adult life, ever since I first read Yeat's wonderful line: "The best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity". It's a really tricky balancing act. Obama said we need doubt to temper our passions. And that's exactly right, though I know a lot of people who misinterpret that and think it's an advocacy of wishy washiness.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 03:23 PM
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1. don't ask, don't tell - lotta doubt about that issue nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 03:29 PM
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3. I don't think that's the meaning of either what Yeat's wrote or
what the President said. It's about becoming so wrapped up in a goal that we forget how important it is for the means to be ethical. An example of the worst being filled with passionate intensity, is Randall Terry.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 03:28 PM
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2. True 50:50 is harder than you think, because BOTH have to be Real, since the contrapode of either
Edited on Sun May-17-09 03:33 PM by patrice
belies the dishonesty or error of the other.

Doubt is what prevents Blasphemy, the most dangerous of all sins according to the nuns I grew up around. Personally, I think Bush's War, a War desired and promoted by pseudo Pro-Lifers, is pretty clear proof of that fact.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 03:45 PM
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4. cali which Yeats poem is that line from?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 03:49 PM
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5. the second coming
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.



Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 03:55 PM
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6. Thanks!
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