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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:32 PM
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California, Michigan, Minnesota
and other states with huge deficit:

You can find an empty space with no residential areas around it and invite the Federal government to build a Gitmo like jail to house some Gitmoees...

Since it will be a brand new facility dedicated to these miserable bastards only, the FBI will have no case to object because they may mingle with gangs... or whatever he said.

And it will be a source of revenue and will provide jobs.

And since it will be in the middle of nowhere - you can find a site - no one would raise NIMBY objections.

So what are you waiting for?

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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:42 PM
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1. Yeah, I dont get it.....
Edited on Wed May-20-09 06:42 PM by Clio the Leo
.... who is proposing that former Gitmo detainees would be mingling with the general population out on the yard?

Would the greater concern NOT be their making buddies with the African American Muslim prisoners (which is what's being implied) but with the violence that would ensue once the WHITE racist skin heads got ahold of them?

Crazy.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:47 PM
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2. Straight from the horse's... er, the FBI director
In a surprisingly candid statement, FBI Director Robert Mueller said he's concerned about bringing Gitmo detainees into the United States.

He told a House hearing today that they could radicalize others, even if held in U.S. high-security prisons. And he said if any detainees with terror training are ultimately ordered released, then it would present a challenge to the FBI to keep close tabs on them, either with physical surveillance or wiretaps.

*** UPDATE *** More from Williams: Mueller's statements before the House Judiciary Committee were surprising, given his ability to skillfully sidestep questions he'd rather not answer. A potential terrorist who comes into the U.S. "from whatever source" could provide financing, radicalize others -- even in prison -- and could try to carry out attacks, he said.

Pressed about whether detainees would pose a risk if held in a maximum security prison, such as Colorado's Supermax, Mueller said he doubts anyone sent there could escape. But he added, "In gang activity around the country, using it as an analogy, there are individuals in our prisons today who operate their gangs from inside the walls of prison. So while there may not be the opportunity to escape, there may still be the risk."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/05/20/1938150.aspx
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:17 PM
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3. Yes, but is someone OTHER than the Bush-hold over FBI director saying this?
(that detainees might possibly be released into the general population)

Has Holder or anyone in his office said it? (and I realize the FBI is under the DOJ, but you would have never been able to get Hoover to admit that RFK was his boss, ya know?)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:19 PM
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4. guts


I guess that RI is going to be the state that gets the prize, the only state with both Senators voting no on the idiotic ammendment.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 11:37 PM
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6. Can RI find a place in the middle of nowhere
when the nearest residential area is 100 miles away, or so?

Good for RI.

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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:20 PM
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5. Its hard to do that when we have dumbass Democrats claiming
they don't want them in their state.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:28 AM
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7. The Geneva Conventions prohibit keeping POWs in climates unlike their own.
That would eliminate Michigan and Minnesota as long-term detention facility locations.

Yes, I DO regard the Geneva Conventions as largely authoritative, despite the gross illegality of these "wars."

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:46 AM
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8. Yet MI and MN would be perfect for large parts of the year.
Another 20 years or so of human-induced catastrophic climate change and they'll be suitable all year round. I'm beginning to think it might take 20 years to resolve this whole matter anyway. Plenty of time for the last of the water at hand evaporates.

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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:54 AM
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9. Hmmmm
No thanks. I think we'll pass on that here in MN. I'd rather cut spending.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:05 AM
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10. California has... vast tracts of land...
Hell, there's the Mojave... and Schwarzenegger sure as hell loves to put prison funding bills on the ballots every chance he gets... and now that we've rejected that half-witted idea that we should take the lottery away from the schools so that we could borrow $5B against future proceeds in order to balance the budget (because Republicans refuse to allow yacht taxes, let alone any increases in property taxes)... well the climate is ripe!

Send them to California!! We'll take 'em!! (Though Montana was lobbying to take them on Keith tonight... damn them).

Hell, I think California has at least 3, probably more than 3, of the top 10 unsafe cities in the country... why worry about 100 terrorists in prisons?... Are they really any worse than Manson?...
This is about the only prison funding initiative that I will vote for...
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:26 AM
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11. A town outside of Billings is offering to take 100
Have the prison sitting idle.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:36 AM
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12. Probably the idea of some California ex-pats... damn their hides...
Heh, then again... California not only has no idle prison space... we've periodically had to release non-violent prisoners early because the courts refuse to let the cops/courts pack the prisoners in beyond about 2.5xcapacity... Hmm, though the Oakland City jail had to close because the City didn't have the money to keep the jail running... Oakland could house the terrorists... and they might even be afraid to escape into the city...
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:04 AM
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13. New York has a major deficit. n/t
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