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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:47 PM
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Poll question: Do you want Terror indictees housed in US whil awaiting trial
Just hear Saxby CHambliss on Hardball say that he does not want Gitmo detainess on US Trial at all. Typically NIMBY attitude, but the wrinkle here is interesting.


He aid some hav legitimate Habeas issues and a judge could order their immediate release onto US Soil.


THe argument is ultimatly weak because if relased they could be immediate extradited for being here illegally (estraordinary extradition?). But the counter is that extradition is a kong process and they could be on the street plotting attacks in the meantime. It is a remarkable interesting and I think politically effective argument. Even if Chambliss is a moran.

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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:49 PM
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1. I want them out on bail.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:50 PM
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2. How much bail?
and who is going to post it?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:27 PM
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7. Out on bail?
Thats ridiculous
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:57 PM
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3. It's not Risky.
Whether it be a military jail or a high security federal prison, I have faith is our corrections officers.

This is a red herring argument that Harry Reid fell for. We CAN house what may be considered the worst of the worst, give them a trial and then, if found guilty -- encarcerate them.


Are we all forgetting the Blind Shiek? The UnaBomber? Timothy McVeigh? (McViegh conspirators?) Eric Rudolph? Charles Manson?

I find it really wrong that people do not think our prison System can't handle the worst of the worst. I find it even worse that people are afraid to test our judicial system because they are so afraid that an AMERICAN judicial system can't keep them.





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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:05 PM
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4. Other: this is what we get for what we did.
Edited on Wed May-20-09 07:06 PM by CTyankee
We have created this situation. It seems that the people do NOT want these people on the soil of their states (fear always wins with the populace of course).

If we decide, as a people, that our Constitution does or doesn't rule our nation, then we are deficient in our own governing.

Do we believe in habeas corpus? The statement against restriction to suspension of habeus corpus in our Constitution (except in cases of invasion or rebellion) is in the FIRST article of that document, not even in the ten amendments to it. Is THIS what we want?

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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:22 PM
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5. My email to my TWO (CO) conservadems
"First... are the detainees in Guantanamo terrorist? Have they been charged with a crime?

Second... are the convicted terrorists that we *do* house in Buena Vista a threat to us? Is that facility unsafe? Should I be worried?

Have you been bullied into a vote by the, apparently, still in control Republican Party?

Pity that human rights are no longer an issue for our elected Democratic officials."

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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:24 PM
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6. The terrists are comming! The terrists are comming!!!111!!
We've housed them here in Colorado (at Florence) for some time. Last I checked we haven't turned into an Al Qaeda outpost. Of course, after the last election in November our Republicans might have a slightly different view of that. Anyway, we've done well in dispensing with the creepy-scary types -- most notably Marilyn Musgrave (unrequited goodbyes are just soooo sad!).
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:30 PM
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10. Is Alan Arkin coming too?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:55 PM
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16. Everybody to get from street!
If we can trust our prisons to hold Charlie Manson and the cheerleader-murdering mom I'm sure they can handle Al Qaida guys.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:28 PM
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8. Place them in jail while awaiting trial.
Imprison them if guilty, return them to thier home countries if innocent.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:29 PM
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9. Montana town requests that U.S. government send 100 Gitmo detainees to its prison.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:33 PM
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11. Montana wants 100 of them
I say take em up on their offer

They'll be in a Supermax, what's the big deal?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:36 PM
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12. Yes, he is afraid of justice as established originally in the United States.
He, like many, had rather treat them be treated like animals (whether there is any establishment of guilt or not). Well, let me take that back. I heard some detainees requested animal rights.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:04 PM
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13. Most of these detainees don't belong in jail
I just love how they call them "terrorist" in the Senate and on the news. We have seen no proof they are "terrorist" I would let most of them go where ever they want to go. They desrve a trial like any of us would get. Remember this was Bush who placed them under arrest. Bush lied about everything. So why not lie about the detainees?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:45 PM
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14. They're Terrorists, They have super human powers!
The real reason they are warehoused @ Git'mo is because if they were on United States mainland soil, they would be subject to our laws and Constitution, no question . They are splitting hairs by keeping them at Guantánamo because that is one of our military bases and therefor subject to our laws. They are having it both ways there.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:55 PM
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15. He objects because a court could find there is no legal reason to hold them?
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:53 PM
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18. That is what he said.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:51 PM
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17. Give them a fair trial. If the Bushista used torture, then do not allow
the information to be entered. This is much larger that 300 + terror suspects, most of whom are innocent anyway. It is about the rule of law. Do we practice it or not?
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Old Hank Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 10:03 PM
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19. The poll doesn't even have a "Yes" option!
lol.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 04:10 AM
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20. Yes--though not an option on the poll
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 05:56 AM
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21. We are quite talented
at keeping the folks we want in prison. We probably have the best infrastructure and technology for this of any country on the planet. I don't see the problem.
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