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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:01 AM
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Obama trying to ram another U.S. job-sucking trade pact through Congress
Obama wants to get the Panama Trade Promotion Agreement implemented by July 1. Notice that he didn't put 1/1000 of the effort to support EFCA. Details and analysis at http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/5/20/733569/-An-agreement-that-isnt-good-for-anyone:-The-Panama-Trade-Promotion-Agreement">this Daily Kos piece.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:07 AM
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1. Obama Backs Off Panama Trade Agreement after Populist Pressure
http://www.economicpopulist.org/?q=content/obama-backs-panama-trade-agreement-after-populist-pressure
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:20 PM
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6. LOL, killed the premise of the OP on the first post.....
:spray:
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:15 PM
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14. The article you quote clearly implies President Obama plans to re-introduce the bill... nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:30 PM
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17. I wonder what the new "framework" will be...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:10 AM
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2. What tremendous effort has Obama personally invested in this?
Since it's a thousand times more than he did for EFCA... I'm curious.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:16 PM
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:22 AM
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3. Obama supports free trade. Shipping American jobs to other countires is good policy to him.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:32 PM
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7. *cough*bullshit*cough*
:eyes:
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:04 PM
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11. Choke away....
granted this piece was done by the RNC. Nevertheless they show video clips of Obama's own speaches supporting both side of this issue.

I am curious which side is Obama bullshiting on?
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:15 PM
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13. "I support Free Trade" - Barack Obama (see my sig) nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:31 PM
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18. well, *now* there is bullshit on the thread.
Obama describes *himself* as a free-trade believer and as a free-market advocate.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:54 PM
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22. from the link on post 11. sorry.
Fight for Fair Trade:

Obama will fight for a trade policy that opens up foreign markets to support good American jobs. He will use trade agreements to spread improved labor and environmental standards around the world and stand firm against agreements like the Central Amercan Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) that fail to live up to those important standards.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:56 PM
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10. Pres. Obama supports fair trade. FACTS: OnTheIssues.org: "Barack Obama on Free Trade" (link-->)
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Free_Trade.htm
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:09 PM
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4. on hold till the summer when few will be paying attention.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:34 PM
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:04 PM
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25. And you know this how? Because the Obama administration is just getting revved up.
Almost every day, there's something: the credit-card bill, the call to overhaul regulation of derivatives, the deal on auto emissions. In normal times, any one of these (especially that last one, which Congress had failed to pull off for 30 years) would have been thought a huge deal. But in the present context, they're only the appetizers. Democrats in Washington expect by September we'll have a health-care bill and that climate-change legislation will be accomplished by November. The deals are being cut on the Hill right now. And there will be plenty of attention being paid.



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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:13 PM
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26. and. what is your point?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:35 PM
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27. Why do you think this will be "on hold till the summer when few will be paying attention"?
Edited on Fri May-22-09 04:36 PM by ClarkUSA
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:50 PM
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28. It is on hold until it is reframed is it not??
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 07:07 PM
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30. It'll be rewritten for the unions. But why the assumption that "few will be paying attention"?
Edited on Fri May-22-09 07:23 PM by ClarkUSA
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:43 PM
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9. as is common for you, you're wrong.
I know you pant to attack Obama at every turn, but you really should stop embarassing yourself. I mean, I love, love love that you make a fool of yourself so often, but you might consider that you've turned yourself into a bad joke.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:05 PM
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12. yet this is sanctioned behavior apparently.
Edited on Fri May-22-09 01:07 PM by dionysus
:(

it does draw certain people in like moths to a flame though
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:16 PM
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15. The whole thing is a pack of lies.
Edited on Fri May-22-09 01:30 PM by denem
I look up Kos, and find it's the trade negotiator Ron Kirk who is supposedly trying 'ram through' the Panama trade pact. Then I read the linked story, and find Kirk 'declined to give any specific time frame for clearing any of the agreement'. There were a number of contentious labor issues to be resolved with congress.

Knee Jerk BS from a hater.
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cabbage08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:26 PM
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16. Thanks for pointing out the truth n/t
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:20 PM
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24. Who is Ron Kirk working for, brain-stem?
Duh.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:37 PM
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19. "Another"? Hasn't he been pushing this one all along? nt
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:42 PM
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20. Obama is a chess player. This is all part of his master strategy.
j/k
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:06 PM
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23. LOL I know you're being sarcastic....:)
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:52 PM
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21. you're making quite a name for yourself around here, brent
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 05:02 PM
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 08:46 PM
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31. **************KNEE JERK POST ALERT!!!****************** (read first reply)
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