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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:11 AM
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Bush Truth Commission = 111,459 signatures so far...
Support a Truth & Reconciliation Commission
http://bushtruthcommission.com/

111,459 signatures so far... keep it going!


Full Petition Text:

I hereby join Senator Patrick Leahy's call for the establishment of a truth and reconciliation commission, to investigate the Bush-Cheney Administration's constitutional abuses so we make sure they never happen again. These abuses may include the use of torture, warrantless wiretapping, extraordinary rendition, and executive override of laws.

A truth and reconciliation commission should be tasked with seeking answers so that we can develop a shared understanding of the failures of the recent past. Rather than vengeance, we need a fair-minded pursuit of what actually happened. The best way to move forward is getting to the truth and finding out what happened -- so we can make sure it does not happen again.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:18 AM
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1. yeah, whitewash--that'll teach 'em!
I won't sign anything that does not demand CONSEQUENCES--as in, PROSECUTION and long prison terms or even execution for treason. A "truth commission" is what emerging democracies have, with no real system for PROSECUTION. I don't want to "understand" the "failures of the recent past"--I want to make sure that the traitors and torturers who committed them will never "serve" in government or be walking free among us again.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:24 AM
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2. Agreed in part, and I signed. Leahy's statements concur with the view of consequences too.
Edited on Sat May-23-09 06:25 AM by L. Coyote
Albeit your "whitewash" is a prejudiced broad stroke.

If we want the public to care about Bush Junta crimes,
and the crime of a Bush Junta, first you need a venue
making the hidden secrets public in some way or another.
I support any and every step in that direction.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:37 AM
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3. the only "commissions" I've heard of have only covered up the truth
I'm talking about the Warren Commission on JFK assassination, and the 9/11 "Commission," the latter being all corporatists and insiders with an axe to grind and motivation to do anything BUT come up with the "truth."

You presented the "full text" of the petition, and there is absolutely NOTHING in there about "consequences" or prosecution.

More than enough has already been made public--ferchrissake, Cheney keeps admitting to torture in more and more blatant terms, over the public airwaves, and getting 24/7 coverage--let's get on with putting people in prison for their crimes, which EVERYBODY knows about.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:49 AM
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6. You know, I signed it but with reservations realizing as I did so
that it was just another attempt to whitewash and sweep everything under the rug. I hope some of the European democracies successfully prosecute all of these bastards because it's clear this country has no intention of doing so.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:03 AM
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4. no , NO MORE FRAUD COMMISSIONS! this is exactly what they want!!
Edited on Sat May-23-09 07:24 AM by flyarm
So the coverups can continue!

WANT ANOTHER 9/11 WHITE WASH COVERUP?..GO AHEAD SIGN THAT CRAP..

want real justice?

INDEPENDENT SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!

Does anyone really think a "truth-lies commission " will ever deal with this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5702810

Never..look at all the coverups in Watergate, Iran contra, and the 9/11 commission..

It was because of the Watergate, and iran contra commissions..that we got Cheney and rummy.. because the real perpetrators never were held accountable!

No more damn lie commissions..there is never " truth " in a commission..that is an Oxymoron!

where were the questions about this during the 9/11 commission????????? ( from my files..)

Speaking of Sen. Bob Graham..VIDEO Randy Glass Warning Graham re 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1_nShdq6vc


hmmmmmmmmmmmm...“We'll know our disinformation program is complete when
everything the American public believes is false.”
-- William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting, 1981)

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:51 AM
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5. Anyone remember the Watergate Hearings? Just a white wash?
This negative argumentation is totally specious reasoning,
the false look of truth or genuineness is sophistically useful,
but irrelavent and non-determinative of what happens in the future.

Take Cheney away from the airwaves, put him under oath,
and ANYWHERE is better than nowhere!!

Or, we can let William Casey's MSM wurlitzer rule the day!
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:58 AM
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7. I can't sign a whitewash.
Because it's not the right thing to do. If I committed the crimes that the Bush administration did I would be forced to pay. I would be guilty as hell of crimes against humanity and our land. I would be held accountable and that would be following the law with no ambiguity whatsoever. But I'm a lesser American than the President and his cabinet? They are above the law?

See? That's why I can't sign away the law of the land.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 12:56 PM
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8. Actually, they should set up a truth commission on the Obama administration
It'll attract more people.


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