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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:19 PM Original message |
Is it possible or even realistic to get through life without EVER having to use a credit card |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes. Of course. |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well, I've been doing it for 5 years now. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Are you five years old? |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Ha... wondering if you'd ask that. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. I've never had one |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. me neither |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. If you are planning a trip and you need to make a reservation |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No, you can simply pay for your room |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. My last trip |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. I've not any problems getting a hotel reservation with my debit card. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
117. I haven't had a credit card since about 1993 |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
141. Me either. |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. Once upon a time it was. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Those 2 store accounts were not credit cards? |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Yes. Of course they were. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Possible, but difficult |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. How about getting approved for an apartment? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Yeah, that too. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. That's a credit report - not credit card |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. They want to see a long term positive history of credit |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. You can get credit without a credit card |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Department store credit card? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Oh for pete's sake - 3 year job & 750 credit |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
62. I'd LOOOOOVE to see the predatory car loan you got |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I haven't needed one in over ten years |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. My apologies |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 02:08 AM Response to Reply #74 |
101. How can you be so sure that... |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
118. Correction: SOME landlords want to see that. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
70. You can have a credit history without having a credit card |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. I guess you could, but it's very inconvenient |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. I buy books on Amazon and music, movies on iTunes no problem. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Live on what we earn |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
71. I buy airline tickets. pay for hotel rooms, rent cars and download on iTunes without a credit card |
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scrappydo (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
90. I buy airline tickets with my debit card.... |
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scrappydo (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. and I buy my airline tickets on line..... |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Except when you need a car loan...... |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
121. I buy airline tickets from places like Travelocity all the time with a debit card! |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
9. Renting a car without one is challenging. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I don't think you CAN rent a car without a cc. That's the first thing they ask for. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Alamo lets you |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Sure you can. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Or an Amex. That works too. But yeah, my mom has always gotten by |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
73. I have rented many cars with a debit card |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
142. Are you kidding? I just did so in december for two weeks with a debit card! |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
10. Only If You Live a Very Provincial Life. eom |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Guess I live a VERY Provencial life. Have one credit card that is used sparingly and paid up every |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. But That's My Point |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. I Travel |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. How Do You Order Tickets? |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You just make sure you have enough money in your bank account. |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I'm Not Asking How You Pay |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. All with my debit card. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
72. If the room is fully paid in advance, it will be held |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Debit Card |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Credit Cards are Much Simpler |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. And so? What's that got to do with the OP? |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. You're Very Anti-Credit Cards |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. No I'm not, I'm anti misinformation |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 01:20 AM Response to Reply #57 |
98. No one is giving misinformation |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. I will never understand this attitude... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
77. Oh I think most people can live without them... |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #77 |
111. What is the Difference Between A Credit Card and Debit Card |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #77 |
119. Why put yourself in that position? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #119 |
132. I did not put myself into that position. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
136. I'll bet you're wrong. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. I was wrong by 20 percent |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Nope, that not the question |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I'm 51 |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
114. The Beauty of Life |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
76. And I do all of that with a debit card |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Where are people getting this disinformation? |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Actually, you're Debit card kinda is a credit card |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. All debunked |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Or one who really doesn't have many choices |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. Yes it has been debunked |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #79 |
93. You mean SOME not all |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #93 |
107. Hello? |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. A debit card is NOT a credit card.. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I know |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. You said, "A debit card is kinda like a credit card"... |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Ever hear of OVERDRAFT!!! |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Well, it's the same with checks |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #64 |
124. You're right |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #124 |
138. Using extreme circumstances... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #60 |
112. This is correct |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #53 |
125. I bought HANNAH MONTANA tickets with MY debit card! |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. We travel... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
84. The Certitude With Which This Nonsense Is Asserted Is Astounding |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #84 |
100. It's not all nonsense |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #100 |
108. I travel all over the US and have NEVER been refused a room at any hotel |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #100 |
131. "Some" hotels |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. So all those trips to Europe I used to take were part of a Provincial life? |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
47. In my opinion... |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #47 |
123. I don't Pay Interest |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #123 |
139. Congratulations... |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
143. Why, thank you...I guess. WTF? |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
11. debit card. n/t |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
16. Depends on where you live and what you do for a living |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
19. sure, but it would be VERY difficult to travel internationally without one |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
82. Did an entire trip around the planet with a debit card |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. I think I may have misunderstood the post a bit |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #89 |
96. A Debit Card Is A Cash-Based Life |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #96 |
120. clearly you don't have much experience with paranoid conspiracy types |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 01:19 AM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Well, "having the funds" is basically a "cash based life", is it not? |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #97 |
122. see my reply above |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
24. The biggest problem might be getting a bigger loan after you haven't established credit. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
59. We bought our first home... |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
133. If you have the down payment |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
32. It's very easy. Use a debit card and an AmEx green card |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
38. Nope, I really tried, but when my uncle died in Arizona in a small out of |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
126. You could have rented a car with a debit card too. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #126 |
134. This was in 1975. There was no such animal as a debit card, however, |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
42. We cut up all credit cards seven years ago... |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
46. had debit cards where money comes out of bank account |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
48. I've been doing it for the last 8 years. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
50. Difficult, and getting more so. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
68. Yes I have been doing it for over 25 years |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
75. Of course it is |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
80. 23, never used one n/t |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
81. paypal and debit cards have made it possible |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
85. This OP is sooooo NOT "General Discussion: Presidential"...... :-) |
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scrappydo (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
86. I have never had a credit card.... |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
87. I haven't had a credit card in about 5-6 years. I used my debit card. |
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Undercurrent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
88. I lived for most of my life without credit cards, |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
92. my grandpa did, but |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
95. Not in the US. In order to buy a home or a car.... |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. I got a car loan without a credit card. nt |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #99 |
109. So did I. |
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onetwo (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 02:23 AM Response to Reply #95 |
103. You can get a credit card and develop a positive history without ever carrying a balance. |
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onetwo (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 02:18 AM Response to Original message |
102. Guess what? You can get a credit card and build up positive credit without using it once... |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
104. I'm 47... |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
105. Yes. We have debit/credit cards linked to our Credit Union accounts, |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
106. Not if you plan to buy a car over time or get a mortgage... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. I have had a couple mortgages and numerous car loans and I don't have credit cards |
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Z_I_Peevey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
113. More than a half century of living with no credit card ever, |
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Frumious B (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
115. Of course it's possible just as it is possible to get by without a number of conveniences. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #115 |
127. I have never had these kinds of problems. |
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Frumious B (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #127 |
140. I know a couple of people who had their Visa Check card numbers compromised. |
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friedgreentomatoes (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
116. Strictly speaking, it is possible. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #116 |
128. I imagine I could get Netflix free trial the way I get most things online |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
129. My parents never had a credit card until they retired. Kind of telling, IMO. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
130. I did ok for a number of years |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
135. Credit Cards are a form of loans. So if you ever need a mortgage, buy a home or go to school. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
144. Yes. My 84-yr-old mother has never had one. Buys cars with cash, e.g. |
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friedgreentomatoes (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
145. I think the question has been a bit confusing. |
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