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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 04:11 PM
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Head Of Anti-Sotomayor Group: Hispanic Voters “Think Just Like Everyone Else…Not Like African Americ
Head Of Anti-Sotomayor Group: Hispanic Voters “Think Just Like Everyone Else…Not Like African Americans”

Manuel Miranda, the controversial leader of conservative groups allied against Sonia Sotomayor, said on a blogger conference call that African American voters are different from Hispanic voters because Hispanics “think just like everyone else” on issues, “unlike African Americans.”

Miranda, you’ll recall, is the fellow who’s organizing a campaign to pressure the GOP Senate leadership into filibustering Sotomayor. As I noted below, Miranda had to resign as a GOP Senate staffer after getting nailed hacking into the computers of Senate Dems and swiping their strategy memos.

Today, Miranda did a conference call with conservative bloggers organized by the Heritage foundation, where he discussed Sotomayor. Asked how Republicans could oppose her while avoiding charges of racism, Miranda said they had to wage substantive attacks. Then he segued into a discussion of the views of Hispanics on issues, saying:

“By the way, Hispanic polls, Hispanic surveys, indicate that Hispanics think just like everyone else. We’re not like African Americans. We think just like everybody else.”

The audio is here; the key bit starts at around the 42 minute mark.

To be clear, Miranda didn’t appear to be saying that African Americans are unlike everyone else in that they don’t think. He seemed to be saying that everyone, including Hispanics, thinks one way on issues, and African Americans think another way. Perhaps Miranda meant otherwise, but this seems clumsy at best and seems to crudely isolate African Americans as a political group.

Miranda’s group is putting severe pressure on GOPers to follow his group on Sotomayor, though you have to wonder whether they’ll follow his lead if this is what he really thinks.

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/senate-republicans/head-of-anti-sotomayor-group-hispanic-voters-think-just-like-everyone-elsenot-like-african-americans/
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 04:17 PM
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1. thanks for posting
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 04:26 PM
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2. .
:wow:



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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 04:29 PM
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3. My,my
What a piece of work. :shrug:

Guess I don't think like other racial groups think --
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 04:29 PM
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4. What the hell?
So who exactly is "Everyone Else" (hint: Not black people: hint White people?)

WOw -- Seriously just when ya think they can't jump the shark any higher...
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marimour Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 06:37 PM
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5. hes wrong about this though.
Yeah Hispanics don't vote as much in blocs like we do (AA's) but I have heard real reaction from conservative latinos which is showing that this might push more of them to do so. Was listening to a radio show today and latino callers were calling in and saying that their parents and other older Latinos are really enraged about this Sotomayor drama. Its being widely covered in Hispanic media and its pushing even socially conservative Latinos towards Democrats.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 06:42 PM
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7. How could they not be? It's totally
gratuitious bashing the way they're going after her.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 07:56 PM
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9. Indeed, you don't lose 90% of the vote of a single race by accident
Seriously, what's really amazing when you think about it with the African American vote is that studies show that 2/3's of kids end up belonging the same political party as their parents. The democrats have certainly dominated the AA vote for more then a generation now, so lets assume that they won 100% of the AA vote in the 1980's, by that measure they ought to have won only 67% of the young African American voters, yet for generations they consistently get around 90% of the AA vote. Even in elections where it's a black republican against a white democrat the democrat usually takes a large part of the African American vote.

That's not 'voting based on race', or being 'different' or whatever Miranda wants to call it, that's screwing up REALLY bad among African Americans.

The one thing that is true though that Miranda seems to be implying is that Hispanics are a bit more divided up into subcultures then African Americans, since there's several different countries that most Hispanics immigrated to the US from. That however doesn't mean that it's not impossible for the GOP to really piss them all off and lose their votes in landslides.
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marimour Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 08:18 PM
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12. so true
Most people raised in my generation (20 somethings) were basically raised being told that the Republican party doesn't care about Black people, and the GOP is showing that our parents were correct.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 12:50 AM
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13. So true, it needs to be said again
Even in elections where it's a black republican against a white democrat the democrat usually takes a large part of the African American vote.

Yep.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 06:42 PM
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6. What the hell does this even MEAN?
*brain explosion*
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 06:50 PM
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8. Yeah? Bottom line..
why is he going after her for any reason except he's in the Gaggle Of Psychos?
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 08:02 PM
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10. Open mouth ... insert foot
When bigots speak!
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sarah553807 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 08:07 PM
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11. And they wonder why they vote 97% of time democrat
:crazy:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 01:03 AM
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14. I've been waiting on this.
Edited on Wed Jun-03-09 01:07 AM by vaberella
It's been a while since I've heard some good, old, Black/Hispanic racism. This is something no one damn well talks about but it's definitely there. Lots of unease there that deals with racism, classicism and more. Always a division. Sometimes it's culturally like Haitian/Dominican which has deep roots to the Haitian massacre by Dominicans in DR or Dominican/Puerto Rican animosity. Sometimes it's just in the US where they've built the propaganda machine to divide social classes because if they ever got together they'd see the oppressor is not each other but the capitalist and even racist politicians. Huh....How am I not surprised this was going to start...


~sigh~ It's like being welcomed to the City of Dis.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 01:13 AM
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15. We think like everyone else not like African Americans?
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 06:36 AM
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16. Heh.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 07:40 AM
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17. So in response to how her opponents can avoid sounding like racists, he sounds like a racist
:thumbsup:
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