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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:03 AM
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The Republican Jewish Coalition didn't like Obama's speech
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 11:40 AM by jenmito
They put out a statement saying Obama's speech was even and balanced on both sides of the Israeli/Palestinian issue, and that was the WRONG tone to take. He should NOT have put the Palestinians on the same level as the Israelis because they don't believe in peace like the Israelis do. I wish I had the exact words, but that was the idea. I say, "Mission accomplished!" :rofl:

ETA link to official statement thanks to babylonsister: RJC: Speech too balanced

http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/06/04/1005636/rjc-speech-too-balanced
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:10 AM
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1. Coalition?
You mean Eric Cantor found a friend to hang with?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:13 AM
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3. Well, Mike Pence, a Christian Repub., is on CNN right now calling that same aspect
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 11:14 AM by jenmito
"moral equivalency" between the Israelis and Palestinians "very troubling." ANOTHER Mission Accomplished!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:21 AM
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10. Mike Pence is the one who was
whining to Hillary about something right before she cleaned his clock.

I forget..so many whines so little time..but it was something about the way President Obama did things and she said the old way didn't work and we were going to try it his way this time.

I see he's back in full whining mode.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:31 AM
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15. Glad to hear he was put in his place...
and I'm sure he will be AGAIN. These guys have nothing real to complain about.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:13 AM
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2. And, in other news, certain husbands fought with their wives today
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:15 AM
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5. I know. But I see Repubs. speaking out and this seems to be the talking point. n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:16 AM
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8. Not being critical of the thought to post n/t
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:14 AM
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4. Oh yes how dare he take a "balanced" and fair view on the I/P situation.
Geez.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:16 AM
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7. I know. What a joke that being "balanced" is considered being unfair to Israel.
:eyes:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:27 AM
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13. Obama said it perfectly, both sides need to accept blame and responsibility
Israelis that don't get that need to climb down their high horse. As someone whose Mom is half-Jewish I shake my head in shame at some of these RWingers.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:30 AM
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14. I agree...
and so do my parents-BOTH of whom are Jewish. They love Obama and his message.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:09 PM
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34. you said it, both sides need to accept blame and responsibility.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:15 AM
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6. Did they phone with this message from the telephone booth where they hold their bigger meetings?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:18 AM
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9. There are more phone booths remaining in this country than these people.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:22 AM
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11. Link here. They're complaining the speech was too balanced!
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 11:34 AM by babylonsister
:rofl:

http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/06/04/1005636/rjc-speech-too-balanced


RJC: Speech too balanced

By Eric Fingerhut · June 4, 2009

The Republican Jewish Coalition said President Obama's speech in Cairo was too balanced and "appear to mark the beginning of a worrisome shift in U.S. policy."

"President Barack Obama, in his major speech in Cairo this morning, struck a balanced tone with regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and that's what was wrong with this speech," said RJC executive director Matt Brooks. "American policy should not be balanced -- it should side with those who fight terror, not those who either engage in it or are too weak to prevent it."

"We urge President Obama to return to the policy of holding the security of Israel as a key American priority and requiring significant, concrete, and verifiable moves toward peace from the Palestinian side," the Brooks statement said.

The full RJC statement is after the jump:

Republican Jewish Coalition Executive Director Matthew Brooks said today:

President Barack Obama, in his major speech in Cairo this morning, struck a balanced tone with regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and that's what was wrong with this speech.

American policy should not be balanced - it should side with those who fight terror, not those who either engage in it or are too weak to prevent it.

This conflict will not reach a peaceful conclusion until the Palestinians put an end to terrorism, violence, and incitement against Israel. American policy has long been to support Israel - a fellow democracy and committed ally of this country - in its efforts to achieve lasting security for its citizens. Israel's good faith efforts have been met by unremitting Palestinian violence and what is in effect an internal Palestinian civil war. Peace and security go hand in hand -- Israel has repeatedly reached out her hand in peace only to have it slapped back. The President's remarks to the world's Muslims today appear to mark the beginning of a worrisome shift in U.S. policy.

We urge President Obama to return to the policy of holding the security of Israel as a key American priority and requiring significant, concrete, and verifiable moves toward peace from the Palestinian side.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:33 AM
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16. Thanks...
but you forgot the link. If you have it can I put it in my OP?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:34 AM
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17. ROFL!
I got so excited when I saw that! :rofl: Edited my post, and here:

http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/06/04/1005636/rjc-speech-too-balanced
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:39 AM
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20. Thanks, babylonsister!
:D I understand. And I added it to my OP.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:51 AM
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24. "...not those who either engage in it or are too weak to prevent it..."
So, they are saying there is equivalency between terrorists and the victims of terrorism?

Wouldn't supporting those who are 'too weak to prevent it' strengthen them to the point that they COULD stand up to terrorism?

Actually, I think they are saying that - it is the same attitude whereby the police abandon some urban areas to the drug gangs, and declare that EVERYONE in the area is the enemy, even though the majority of the residents are themselves victims of the gangs.

And that is what has happened in Palestine - the majority of the population want to live in peace, but are held hostage to the policies and actions of the violent minority, and Israel's reaction is to blame them ALL (even though the majority population in Israel ALSO want to just live in peace).
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:14 PM
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36. go into their website and you can see that these people are way out there
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 01:14 PM by grantcart

Today they are hosting John Zeigler and his movie. I mean even the far right in CA has given this nut job the boot.



http://www.rjchq.org/Events/eventdetail.aspx?id=d430a02d-0cab-472c-b4e8-a5007b77ca2c
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:15 PM
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37. wow, read this statement/comment
"We urge President Obama to return to the policy of holding the security of Israel as a key American priority and requiring significant, concrete, and verifiable moves toward peace from the Palestinian side," the Brooks statement said.


return to kissing up to Israel he means.

we urge the President???? urge??? this is kind of dominating isn't it?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:26 AM
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12. They keep on digging that hole... they remind me of obsessive-compulsive terriers
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:36 AM
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18. Yup. Well, they're Republicans afterall. But REAL Israelis seemed to like it
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 11:37 AM by jenmito
as reported by a reporter in Jerusalem. But the "settlers" did NOT like it after hearing him say he wants the settlements stopped. They said, "The speech was more 'Hussein' than 'Obama.'" (That's part of a statement from a "settlers' organization." :rofl:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:38 AM
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19. Oy.
:rofl:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:42 AM
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22. I guess...
you can't please all of the people all of the time. Especially if they're Repubs./RWers. :D
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:41 AM
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21. If I'm not mistaken...
The majority in Israel are in favor of closing the settlements.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:44 AM
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23. I think you're right...
the statement, though, was from a group of those settlers. Of course THEY are AGAINST shutting down the settlements.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:58 AM
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25. I really often wonder who the 'settlers' are --
because everything I've seen indicates the vast majority of them are recent immigrants, mostly from the US and former Soviet states. The settlers did not live through the wars of '48, or '56, or '67, or '72. They MUST have a different mind set from those who created the state.

I wonder why.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:59 AM
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26. You're probably right...
and whoever they are, they have no right to stay on that land.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:44 PM
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27. Not surprising, considering who's in the RJC
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:51 PM
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28. Ari Fleischer???!!!
THAT says it ALL! :rofl:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:15 PM
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38. and today they are hosting John Zeigler

He is so crazy that even the far right in CA won't talk to him.


http://www.rjchq.org/Events/eventdetail.aspx?id=d430a02d-0cab-472c-b4e8-a5007b77ca2c
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:20 PM
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39. They are just anti-Obama! Your link proves it:
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 01:23 PM by jenmito
New England Chapter
Date 6/4/2009
Screening of "Media Malpractice: How Obama got elected and Palin was targeted"
Event Summary Please join us!

:eyes:
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:06 PM
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29. So they wish to preserve the status quo?
The past few years have been a great success in the Middle East {sarcasm}.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:08 PM
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32. It sure sounds that way. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:07 PM
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30. John Boehner apparently just made a similar criticism....
He's a Repub., afterall.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:08 PM
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31. the republican jewish coalition? I guess they don't have a President kissing their butts.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:09 PM
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33. Post #27 explains a lot. n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:21 PM
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40. yea, thanks I took a look at their membership
Ari was there, so was Josh Bolten, wasn't he guy who took pictures of hands???? had a fetish for them?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:24 PM
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41. Yup, that's the one!
He's freaky.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:11 PM
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35. Sen. Ted Kaufman (Jewish DEM.-DE) thought Obama's speech was very good and hit the
right tone with Israel and the Palestinians and kind of accused Boehner of playing politics with his comment sounding like the RJC's statement.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:31 PM
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42. Norm Coleman, Ari Fleisher, Wayne Berman, Sheldon Adelson, David Frum...
They're the people who are paying Normie's bills while he's busy not being a senator.


http://minnesotaindependent.com/24111/norm-coleman-takes-republican-jewish-coalition-job

Coleman takes Republican Jewish Coalition job
By Chris Steller 1/22/09 11:50 AM
Ready for a steak ... and a job.

Norm Coleman went out for a steak dinner in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 5 after the State Canvassing Board declared that his challenger, Al Franken, had received 225 more votes in the recount of Minnesota’s Senate election. But it turns out he wasn’t just crying in his steak. Coleman’s companions that night were Matt Brooks, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC), and Republican lobbyist (and RJC board member) Wayne Berman. Now comes news that Coleman has taken a paid consulting position with the RJC.

“The senator needs to earn a living while the contest is going on,” said Coleman spokesman Mark Drake. “I think our supporters recognize that Sen. Coleman is not a millionaire.” Drake insisted the move doesn’t mean Coleman is downhearted about his chances for success in a potentially expensive election contest he filed that begins in earnest before a three-judge panel on Monday.

Minnesota’s Democratic-Farmer-Labor (DFL) Party was quick off the mark to point out that the RJC has cut checks for Coleman before: specifically, chipping in to cover travel costs on seven trips, including Coleman’s first as a U.S. senator in 2003.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:43 PM
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43. Thanks for that additional information...
it not only makes it even CLEARER as to why this group is again Obama (not just his speech today) but it tells me more about Coleman than I knew before. :hi:
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 02:49 PM
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44. There's more where that came from
Ben Waldman -- who was a buddy of Jack Abramoff's from their College Republican Days and then was partners with Abramoff and Adam Kidan in the SunCruz deal -- was the director back when it was still called the National Jewish Coalition. Waldman had also been Pat Robertson's top aide during his presidential bid in 1988.

Abramoff himself tried to become a major player in the RJC in the early 90's but was rebuffed by Matt Brooks, who allegedly saw him as competition. (In fact, mainstream Jewish Republicans never much liked or trusted Abramoff in general.)

A bunch of Bush Pioneers were also RJC figures -- Fred Zeidman, Sam Fox, Ned Siegal. Not household names, but all both wealthy and very influential in AIPAC-type circles.

Clifford May was the vice chairman for a while.

In short, this is very high-level, insider Republican politics -- its not just a bunch of Republicans who happen to be Jewish. The fact that they're paying Coleman's living expenses during this endless legal challenges seems typical. These are powerful people who take it on themselves to make things happen.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 03:40 PM
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47. Thanks again!
Very interesting. :hi:
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 03:16 PM
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45. What, all two of them?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 03:22 PM
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46. It's a TP---Boehner just said the same thing. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 03:41 PM
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49. Yup. I said the same thing up-thread. n/t
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 03:40 PM
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48. I give it two days and watch Democrats in Congress start questioning Obama in Public on Israel
AIPAC dollars at work.

Watch and See. Save this Post
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