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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:00 AM
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TPM: Health Reform Draft Bill to Be Released by HELP Committee (Stripped for now of public option)
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 11:04 AM by flpoljunkie
Although, are the Senate bills different if both mandates and the public option are stripped out in Kennedy's committee's first draft? It seems highly unlikely that these crucial provision would be put back in for a final vote in the reconciliation process.)
Health Reform Draft Bill To Be Released Today

By Brian Beutler - June 9, 2009, 11:27AM

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/health-reform-draft-bill-to-be-released-today.php

The Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee will (officially) release a draft of its health reform legislation later this afternoon--four days after a version of it leaked on Friday.

According to Politico, Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT)--a senior member of that committee standing in for chairman Ted Kennedy--said the bill would be unveiled later today, stripped for now of its most controversial provisions, including the employer mandate and the public health insurance option.

We'll try to get more details for you (including an explanation for why those details will be missing) later today. Soon after the HELP bill is unveiled, the Senate Finance Committee will release its legislation, and the two will later be merged. More on the politics of that here.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/health-care-stakes-heat-up--kennedy-baucus-meet-with-obama.php

Keep in mind that Democrats have an ace up their sleeve in form of the reconciliation process. Nobody expects the Senate to sign on for a HELP-style bill, but if Republicans don't get on board with something (like, say, the Finance bill) the Democrats can pass the HELP legislation via the budget process.

Meanwhile, if Republicans in the Senate do play along, the bills can be merged into a single piece of legislation, that looks, for the most part like the Finance Committee's proposal. Then the House (where Henry Waxman's Energy and Commerce Committee takes the lead) can pass something along the lines of the Kennedy bill, and the final reform bill will be negotiated in conference committee.

That syncs with the political direction Democratic party leaders have been saying the reform process will take for some time. There's virtual unanimity among Democratic leaders on the Hill that the reconciliation process should be both a bargaining chip, and a tool of last resort, but that ideally a bill will pass through regular order. That's why it makes sense for the Senate to advance two very different bills.



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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:11 AM
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1. Something definitley stinks.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:18 AM
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2. Craptacular
And after a big showdown, eventually they may insert an anemic and useless public option designed to fail, and everyone will go home happy (until they realize all the energy everyone spent for nothing)
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:23 AM
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3. Not a wise strategy!
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 11:40 AM by andym
If the public option is not even included-- it will be politically difficult to add it back later.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:31 AM
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4. I agree. More from Dodd on this via Politico...
"There are some gaps. But there are no gaps in our determination, my determination and that of my colleagues to have a public option, pay-or-play, or biologics," Dodd said. "But I left those areas open for dicussion not because they are open for some sort of decision on whether or not we ought move in that direction. But I wanted my Republican colleagues on the committee to know I wanted to (listen to) their ideas, I want to hear what they have to say."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23522.html#ixzz0Hx1rLQPU&C
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:36 AM
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7. Senator Dodd let me tell you what your "Republican colleagues" will say as if you didn't know

They are against single payer Medicare for All and they are opposed to the public option.

Anything else you need to know Senator Dodd?

Just ask any of us on Democratic Underground and we'd be happy to explain how the Republicans want to kill or gut the "public option".

But, you should already know that.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:38 AM
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9. I keep telling people to stay involved, and I've written some letters..
but until there's reform that gives the insurance companies less clout, I wonder if there's only so much we can do. We need Obama to not back down from a good public plan.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:32 AM
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5. Unfuckingbelievable. Exactly the opposite of what most people want.
If only we could afford lobbyists. If only we could afford to buy off lawmakers like big insurance and big pharma do.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:35 AM
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6. Obama should get involved and start making some demands
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 11:35 AM by mvd
I don't care if Republicans and a few Democrats get mad. I'd rather he vetoed a bad bill and we got better reform later.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:37 AM
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8. Agreed.
I was all prepared to move to Canada to get healthcare if McCain won, but I never expected I'd have to start thinking about it again if Obama won.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:51 AM
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12. I think he will
I see this as a big masquerade. He will jump in, gain gravitas, and fight to insert a useless, anemic, unfunded "public option" that doesn't solve the main problems in the health care system. Everyone will be elated and go home happy. 50 years later the first female president can now pretend to fight for the reform the country desperately needs.

Correct me if Im wrong. That seems to be the direction here.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 02:16 PM
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14. But somebody might disagree with him! n/t
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:39 AM
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10. They already have a good bill, H.R. 676. How bought bringing that up for a vote?
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:43 AM
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11. That bill is a House bill.
Even if by some miracle it passed the House, what do you think would happen in the Senate, where they are afraid to even release a bill with a smaller government run public option.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 02:05 PM
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13. Kennedy draft to be released on friday with public option
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 03:06 PM
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16. Interesting, since Dodd is on the same committee, HELP, and is standing in for Kennedy.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 02:41 PM
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15. I guess I will wait and see how the mechanics of the process work out
Right now I am not impressed, but I understand the twists that they might need to go through since the Repukes and some Dems are being such corporatist bastards on this issue. (What's new?)
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 03:29 PM
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17. TPM: HELP Committee bill will soon propose broader reform than Baucus' Finance Committee bill
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 03:31 PM by flpoljunkie
Key Health Reform Mark-Up Scheduled For Next Week

By Brian Beutler - June 9, 2009, 3:57PM

The Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee released an early version of their health reform legislation today, which, as I noted before, is silent on the crucial questions of the employer mandate and a public health insurance option.

All that, though, will be settled in the coming days and, by the end of the week or early next week the finalized version of the proposal will be released, public option and all. The committee released today's language in order to meet a deadline: next Tuesday, the legislation will be marked up and today's announcement fulfills a commitment to release the language a week in advance.

Earlier today, the committee put out a summary that was oddly mum about the public option.

An important foundation of The Affordable Health Choices Act is the following principle: If you like the coverage you have now, you keep it. But if you don't have health insurance or don't like the insurance you have, our bill will give you new, more affordable options.

But early reports and leaks indicate that it will include robust language, and all indications suggest that the HELP bill will propose broader reform than the Finance Committee's bill, expected to be unveiled in the next couple weeks.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/key-health-reform-mark-up-scheduled-for-next-week.php

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