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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:14 PM
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Crazy right-wing myths about Obama 2.0 (Salon)
The post-inauguration edition of odd things conservatives believe about Obama. Teleprompters! Hitler Youth! Satan!

By Salon staff

... the mythmaking has not stopped. The wheels of rumor grind fast, but they grind exceedingly dumb. Marooned on a grassy knoll of the mind, the right has spun new and scarier fantasies about the president, tales that would send any patriotic, gun-toting Christian fleeing across the border to Canada, if only the Canadians weren't so damn socialist. We present for your inspection, and then debunk, or paw at in desultory fashion, a dozen of the choicest conspiracy theories to gain traction since Jan. 20. We could print more, but we grow weary ...

Myth: Barack Obama is the Antichrist.

Who's spreading it: Get in line. If you have an idea for a "Barack Obama is the Antichrist" Web site, the URL is probably already taken ...

What they believe: That, um, the president is Satan. Or Satan's son. Or maybe he's just the warm-up act for Satan. At the very least, he likes the devil.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/06/08/obama_myths/
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:48 PM
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1. Crazy people making up crazy things in their heads.
I guess the original sin that makes all people have some faults, has led them to judge others without seeing their own challenges. I try not to judge people, but know I do it sometimes also, it doesn't seem to help when I do it.

Its so much easier to call someone a bad name with an emotional label attached to it, then to actually think about ones own actions, and the actions of people so many want to judge for their own worldly reasons.

I of coarse believe President Obama is a person, just like everyone else, including me, he sometimes makes mistakes, sometimes does good. But I think you have to respect those that do good works and follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. So since Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, and I worship God Almighty, through his son Jesus Christ, I know President Obama is just a man, but respect him for his actions, like I respect so many other people that do good works.

I spent some time reading the book of Revelation. What I found myself doing is trying to match the riddles up with events in my experience or in the current world. I was trying to fill in parts of the scripture to make it fit things I wanted to believe. So I really tried to read it only in prayer and with guidance of the holy spirit, in doing that, anything that did not make sense, would always lead me back to another verse.

Mark 12:30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

And when thinking with these two commandments, many of the interpretations just got more and more silly. So I finally came to the conclusion, that part of what we have to overcome is adding our own worldly views into scripture we read. The very act of interpreting for self gain, by making something seem to be a way we want it to be, was part of what I had to overcome.

So although I find many passages inspiring and thoughtful, I try to always think back on a few that are very clear, then use them to check my heart.

:shrug:

If I love God, and love my neighbor, that's a big part of what I think is right. If I miss parts of it, I trust in the grace of God to see me through, either way, I am going to try and not make accusations on people of any side. Knowing I have nothing to worry about, and also believing that the best way to help people is to love them, not to judge them.

For me I figured interpreting the book of Revelation is part of what needs to be overcome, as mentioned in the book of Revelation.



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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:58 PM
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2. And FDR didn't become crippled getting VD from Eleanor who got it from a black man...
Folks that believe this shit listened to Father Coughlin.

Bill and Hillary are murderers.

Nothing new.



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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:06 AM
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5. Father Coughlin...now *there* is an interesting case.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:13 AM
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8. Odd, the Univ. of Toronto didn't mention him in their mega anniversary celebration....nt
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:10 PM
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3. Wonderfully entertaining.
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 09:11 PM by napoleon_in_rags
So Obama's name means lightning from heaven in Hebrew? that one was a stretch but its generally interesting.
http://strongsnumbers.com/hebrew/1116.htm
http://strongsnumbers.com/hebrew/1300.htm
Of course the right wing conspiracy theory is from the Bible line "I saw satan fall from heaven like a lighting bolt" but they miss all the other divine contexts of God sending down lightning bolts, like ex. 9:23

When Moses stretched out his staff toward the sky, the LORD sent thunder and hail, and lightning flashed down to the ground. So the LORD rained hail on the land of Egypt;

edit: Here's a load of references:
http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=lightning&qs_version=31
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:05 AM
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4. The RW thinks that he's the Antichrist and some in the left think he's God.
Newsweek Editor Evan Thomas: Obama Is "Sort Of God"

EVAN THOMAS: Well, we were the good guys in 1984, it felt that way. It hasn't felt that way in recent years. So Obama's had, really, a different task We're seen too often as the bad guys. And he, he has a very different job from ... Reagan was all about America, and you talked about it. Obama is - we are above that now. We're not just parochial, we're not just chauvinistic, we're not just provincial. We stand for something, I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above above the world, he's sort of God.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/06/05/newsweek_editor_evan_thomas_obama_is_sort_of_god.html

It all balances out in the end.

:shrug:


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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 04:24 AM
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7. Thanks... I've bookmarked this. It might come in handy
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 04:36 AM by WePurrsevere
to quote/point to when I need to debunk this stuff.

Those who think Obama is the anti-Christ (not to mention other clergy "fear" spin) need to actually read, meditate and think for themselves about what is and was but has been removed or mistranslated (on purpose or accidentally) in the Bible and take into consideration not only the Bible itself but historical, etc context as well. (For instance one of the main ways Jesus taught was to use parables and stories that were often metaphor... not literal. The people of that time "got" what he was actually saying much as most of us would "get" a modern parable/metaphor that people of that time wouldn't have.)

Unfortunately RW Fundie/Freeper types tend to be mentally lazy and prefer to let someone else to think for them OR are the Fundie preachers whose job isn't really saving souls but making $$$ by using fear and ignorance as a tool to manipulate the masses. :eyes:
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:34 AM
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9. bitters everywhere.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:04 AM
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10. that teleprompter president website is really stupid
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