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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:08 AM
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Why aren't Obama and the Democrats proposing a more progressive income tax?
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 07:09 AM by Onlooker
Every day, I read articles asking how we're going to pay for the stimulus and national health care at a time when the economy is still struggling. There's been talk about a national VAT, taxing health insurance, etc. But, I've seen very little talk about increasing the tax rates on higher income people. Under Eisenhower we had a 90% tax rate (for those earning over $1 million, I think). Under Kennedy, we had a 70% top tax rate. The high wage earners could reduce their taxes by investing in the stock market.

The people who earn enormous amounts of money have been given every benefit that our society has to offer -- not just freedom and diversity, but wealth creation too. It's time they paid their fair share. I don't think the American people would be against higher taxes on the wealthy, especially if it made our economy more prosperous, created more jobs, provided national health care, and helped balance the budget.

Why is there so little talk even among progressives of erasing Reagan and Bush's awful tax cuts and reinstating the kind of progressive taxes we had in the past?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:15 AM
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1. Because it's the payroll tax that is regressive, not the income tax. nt
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:16 AM
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2. I think taxes have to be raised across the board as well as more progressive
We are in a mess that will require all of us to make sacrifice not just those who make more than each of us.
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:38 AM
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3. Why not a bigger bang for our buck FIRST !? n/t
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:25 AM
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4. Obama had a hard enough time getting the income tax back to the Clinton yrs in the budget
And they wouldn't even support limiting the tax breaks on charity donations.

I don't know why people can't understand that there are about 14 Democrats in the Senate that are just as bad as Republicans.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:55 AM
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10. Bingo. The Senate is so regressive and backward at this point.
Its made of up Dems, Rethugs, and in betweeners.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:00 AM
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11. I think it's just convenient to ignore that fact.
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 10:05 AM by redqueen
It's not like it's a secret.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:29 AM
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5. Because the preservation of the middle/working classes takes a back seat to protecting
the wealthy. It is the priority for both parties. The only difference is the degree of honesty about their true goals.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:49 AM
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6. Obama already said he was delaying that until 2010,
since raising taxes of any sort in a recession is a bad idea.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:05 AM
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8. Depends on what that tax money is used for.
If it's just to cover current debts, then it's probably not a good idea to raise taxes. But if it's used to fund needed maintenance AND improvements on the interstate highway system, the railroads, seaports, airports and the national electrical grid system, then it may be a good idea.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:06 AM
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9. Taxes and spending aren't really related.
A balanced budget is necessary for long term economic health, but deficit spending is necessary in a recession. Hoover tried to keep a balanced budget; FDR went deep into the red.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:59 AM
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7. The floor in 1955 was $400,000.00
to be in the highest tax bracket which was 91%. $400,000.00 back then equates to about 32 million in today's dollars. The lowest tax bracket was 20% with a ceiling of $4,000.00 which equates to about $32,000.00 in todays dollars.
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