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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:39 AM
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Palau to Take Chinese Guantanamo Detainees
The United States has won an agreement to transfer up to 17 Chinese Muslims from the prison camp at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, to Palau, a sparsely populated archipelago in the North Pacific, according to a statement released by Palau to The Associated Press on Wednesday.

The president of Palau, Johnson Toribiong, said his government had “agreed to accommodate the United States of America’s request” to “temporarily resettle” the detainees, members of the Uighur ethnic group, “subject to periodic review.” Palau, the president said, would be “honored and proud” to take them in a “humanitarian gesture.”

The agreement opens the door to the largest single transfer of Guantánamo prisoners and is the first major deal on detainees since President Obama pledged soon after taking office in January to close the prison within a year.

It also gives Mr. Obama some relief on an issue that has become a political hot button among Congressional Republicans and even some Democrats, who have noisily protested against releasing what they call potentially dangerous extremists on American soil or transferring them to prisons in the United States.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/world/10palau.html?em


Anyone know about this little island?
At least they won't be going back to China to face persecution.

An interesting part of the article: The Obama administration has been negotiating actively with European and other governments to resettle 50 detainees, who it says are cleared for transfer. Since Mr. Obama took office, the United States has transferred one detainee to France and one to Britain. On Tuesday, it sent the first detainee to the United States to face charges in federal court.

So it sounds like more detainees are going to be sent out of Gitmo.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:44 AM
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1. Survivor Season 10: Palau -- is all i know about it.
So do they take all the prisoners?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:48 AM
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2. The article said they will most likely take a big chunk of the 17
The rest could be sent to Australia or Germany because they already have Uighur populations there. However, no country wanted to take all of them. Obama and co contacted 100 (!) countries and none were willing to take them in except Palau.

I too remember Palau being a Survivor island. Hmmm, maybe it is nice there.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 09:31 AM
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23. They'll no doubt sign with a network for a new reality show
Terror Island.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:03 AM
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3. About 600 miles due east of the southern Phillipines - thank gawd for google earth!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:16 AM
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4. Yes, it's a hop away from Guam. The seafood is awesome!
Fresh tuna! :9

The weather is very tropical/always hot, typhoons aplenty, and I'll bet it's boring as hell there. Haven't been, but have been to Guam and Saipan, which is also close by.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:23 AM
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5. Average temp: 82 degrees.
Not bad. :)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:29 AM
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6. It's a humid 82.
:rofl: It can be bloody hot there, especially if they have infrastructure problems, and many of those islands do. Parts are always 'on the boat', meaning en route, which could take weeks.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:43 AM
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8. I have never been on islands in the Pacific
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 09:45 AM by Jennicut
but it was so incredibly humid and hot when I went to St. Martin 3 years ago. St. Thomas, Puerto Rico, Bermuda were all hot but no humidity. With St. Martin we got off our cruise ship and and it so humid I was sweating after walking about 5 steps. Still, there was a beach. :) and the butterflies at the butterfly farm seem to enjoy the heat.
And tropical islands are always better then the humidity of Connecticut in the summer. Icky. Late July and August we spend every day in the poll or sprinkler. And all we got is Long Island Sound to hang out in, we don't even get any waves! LOL
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:40 AM
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7. fabulous scuba diving location
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:48 AM
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9. Amazing what can be considered a country these days.
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 09:49 AM by Phoonzang
20,000 people. Wow. Of course it's no Vatican with 900 citizens.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:16 AM
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10. Good. Everyone just needs to be patient while the admin continues to sort this mess out.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:24 AM
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11. I will take one for $ 3 million
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:47 AM
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12. When I lived on Kauai I saw pics
from someone who had worked on Palau for a while. It's my kind place, actually.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palau
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:51 AM
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13. Obama = Bu...oh wait.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:22 PM
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14. one of the members of the "coalition of the willing" from what I recall
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:03 PM
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16. Ha! You beat me to it!!
Well, given that they didn't send any troops to Iraq despite supporting the Iraq invasion/occupation, taking some Gitmo detainees should help make up for it. Thanks for your "willingness", Palau!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 08:58 AM
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21. I remember that from the Michael Moore film, or was it from the Daily Show?

A friend of mine here used to make a lot of jokes about it, so that's why I remembered. :D
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 09:19 AM
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22. Well, it was definitely featured on Fahrenheit 9/11 and in one of Moore's books
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 09:22 AM by Proud Liberal Dem
Not sure if it was on the Daily Show but I imagine that it probably was at some point as the whole concept of the "Coalition of the Willing" as presented by Buscho certainly lent itself easily to ridicule. Michael Moore, in "Dude, Where's My Country," even pointed out that not only did most of the countries in the "coalition" NOT contribute any troops and/or resources for the invasion/occupation of Iraq, but also that majorities in most of those countries DIDN'T EVEN SUPPORT the invasion/occupation of Iraq, which makes their *membership* in the "coalition" even more suspect and, frankly, weird IMHO. The fact that more countries, even countries MUCH closer to Iraq, didn't want to sign on with Buscho's mad rush to invade/occupy Iraq should've made it glaringly obvious to everybody how UNNECESSARY the whole endeavor was in the first place- not that the corporate whoremedia or the Bush (mis-)Administration ever really allowed any anti-war voices or dissenting opinions to impede the rush to their "war of choice" against Iraq.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:22 PM
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15. We spent a Christmas vacation on Palau once.
the main island is beautiful. The people then lived simply. The women still carried their infants in palm frond woven 'baby baskets' and walked in their villages topless. Men and women were covered from waist to knees as the inner thigh was considered the body's erogenous zone. We spent a blissful week there. They certainly knew how to celebrate New Year's Eve. Now that was a party.


Palau is so isolated that the transferred detainee will still be prisoners. How did these people end up in our custody as they are not guilty of any acts of terrorism anywhere. We freely admit tey have done nothing. They have been held for 8 years because they are Muslim?
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:15 PM
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17. One of the most beautiful places on the planet
and one of WWII worst battles. It's eerie and quite moving to walk along a beach still containing used up ammo and tire treads while hearing of the absolute hell the soldiers went thru. Also know for jellyfish lake. A land-locked lake that was once connected to the ocean, but hasn't been for 1000's of years. The jellyfish there have no predators and have evolved to the point where they are no longer capable of stinging. It's a very strange sensation to swim thru so many jellyfish that you can barely see anything. I wish someone would send me back to Palau!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:53 PM
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18. Great news. n/t
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:59 PM
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19. Thank God... yet another small Bush era atrocity undone
Anyone know when they'll be released?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:10 PM
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20. What, exactly, is the reason they aren't being let out to the large
Uighur community in the DC area? From all accounts, these people weren't even SUSPECTED of anything...

http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2008/10/06/us-parole-uighur-detainees-united-states


Apparently, the fact that they were at Gitmo at all is the only reason. .
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 10:04 AM
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24. even the little island of Bermuda did a big favour
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