Read this and tell me how we have any hope of true health care reform.

DuaneBidoux

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Sat Jun-13-09 06:29 PM
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Read this and tell me how we have any hope of true health care reform.

The reality is that both parties have been completely bought off in the health care debate.

<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31331116/ns/politics-capitol_hill/>

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Birthmark

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Sat Jun-13-09 06:40 PM
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1. To tell the truth...

...I never expected any real health care reform.

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vaberella

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Sat Jun-13-09 07:58 PM
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9. I did but the Senate is so fuckin' dirty. I became discouraged by them.

I feel as though Obama's health care reform plan is going to fall flat.

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Birthmark

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Sat Jun-13-09 10:15 PM
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10. I wasn't sure where or who would short out the process...

...but I was reasonably sure that health care reform would be crushed or rendered impotent.

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vaberella

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Sat Jun-13-09 11:44 PM
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15. It looks like it's the Senate. One Senator---a Dem for that matter.

Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 11:45 PM by vaberella

Already publicly came out and said that she (Senator Landrieu)would vote against health care reform if there is ANY public option.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/12/741850/-Will-Corporate-Democrats-Sink-the-Public-Option

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8449727

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8460651

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5841923

The Senators are bastards.

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Zavulon

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Sat Jun-13-09 10:20 PM
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12. Nor did I.

And if we get any at all, it will be way too expensive and not nearly effective enough to justify the cost.

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Sat Jun-13-09 06:50 PM
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2. It's starting to look more and more as if we only have one political party.

The so called Democrats are getting as dirty and bought off as the Republicans are.
What happened to "We the People..." that this country is suppose to be about?

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Cleita

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Sat Jun-13-09 06:54 PM
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3. But we have *drum roll* digital TV!

Our elected leaders priorities are really warped.

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Zavulon

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Sat Jun-13-09 10:23 PM
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13. That should tell you why we don't have health care reform.

The government couldn't even handle the DTV conversion properly, and we expect it to handle a responsibility like the effective reform of health care?

What's scariest to me is Obama trumpeting "it's this year or never," which is a.) bullshit, and b.) tells me that whatever bill we get will be a rushed and poorly-crafted one, presumably one with which there won't be time to read it before voting on it.

Whatever we get, it's not going to be good. I honestly think we may be better off with nothing than with a rushed bill.

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IntravenousDemilo

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Sat Jun-13-09 06:55 PM
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4. What ever happened to conflict of interest laws?

How is it that elected officials are allowed to have any ties whatever to corporations? Shouldn't they (and their families) be required to divest themselves of all holdings and positions in the private sector as a condition of being elected?

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Cleita

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Sat Jun-13-09 06:58 PM
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5. I actually sent Obama, Reid and Pelosi letters regarding this. I said no

politician who has receive the majority of their campaign funding from the health and pharma industries should not be part of any committee crafting a health care plan because it's a major conflict of interest. Yes, they should have their vote but that's all they should have.

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IntravenousDemilo

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Sat Jun-13-09 07:03 PM
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6. Good luck with that. I'm sure they are currently using yours and similar letters to wipe their bums.

That's the kind of respect that politicians have for the public.

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Cleita

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Sat Jun-13-09 07:55 PM
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7. No doubt, but I felt I had to say something. n/t

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vaberella

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Sat Jun-13-09 07:57 PM
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8. I'm not holding my breath with health care reform. The Senate is evil. If it goes bad LGBT

rights will also go to hell in a high water and I don't know if DADT or DOMA would get repealed with the clowns in the Senate.

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DefenseLawyer

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Sat Jun-13-09 10:19 PM
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11. We have no hope of true health care reform.

The only change will come when the thing finally collapses under its own weight in 30 or 40 years.

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HopeOverFear

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Sat Jun-13-09 10:30 PM
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14. Speak for yourself, please. I have hope.

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babylonsister

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Sat Jun-13-09 11:53 PM
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16. Quit it! Or don't. You're poisoning your minds...

Nothing has been decided yet!

Try this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5843431&mesg_id=5843431

Woolsey: Progressive caucus won't vote for bill without public plan

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DrToast

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Sun Jun-14-09 12:38 AM
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17. change-congress.org/

http://change-congress.org/

It's the money,stupid!

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Kablooie

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Sun Jun-14-09 01:25 AM
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18. I did not expect anything else. Healthcare will NEVER be a right in America.

You will always be perfectly free to die of disease if you are poor in America.

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