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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 09:44 AM Original message |
The Good Soldier: Hillary Clinton As Secretary of State |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. It's a little early for this article to be written. But her 'plays well with others' quotient has |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Well, there's a crowd that loves real-time assessments--they love to "grade" |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. My firm's clients on The Hill were VERY surprised at how much they enjoyed working with her |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Anybody who knew Hillary could have told them that. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. The reception she got when she arrived to work at State was amazing. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Well, as is the case with Prez O at times, I think folks are thrilled to see GWB and Condi gone. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Hey you call him Prez O too? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Now that the dog is BO, 'BO and MO' doesn't work as well as it used to. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
66. It was fantastic wasn't it? I think they were all sighing with |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
87. Just for fun ..... let's watch it again! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. She got some great committee assignments, and she got those by being nice to, and |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Hear, hear!!! |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. The right said that Obama/Hillary would be tested internationally within the first 6 month. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
5. I'm always smiling when I read how SHOCKED people are that Obama and Clinton could act like adults |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. It speaks volumes of both of them. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
8. Starting the countdown now ..... |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Hopefully not, Ronny. |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
15. I loved the |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Missed that, but a good quip from Stewart. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Trust me. In DC the fed folks all feel that way. nt |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. That's what I heard too from people at State. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
19. The positive writing on Clinton is warranted, but why bash Biden and Jones in order to do so? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Agree. They're both good guys in jobs suited to them. The whole zero-sum approach |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. true |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Yeah, I agree. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I agree. The Biden gaffe thing is getting so, so stale. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. I agree. I don't think they're a big deal at all. Enuff! nt |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. because that was part of someone's intent with this ridiculous opinion piece... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. contrary to your second point |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I missed those articles. Were they about the special envoys? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I dunno |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. I tell the truth and your only recourse is to play your game of pretend. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. LOL! I was expecting you to say "baloney!" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. here....read this recent DU thread..... I highly doubt the Pres. of Syria trusts either Clinton |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Fictional? Kerry's work developing a dialogue with Syria has gone on for 4yrs. Clintons sided w/Bush |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
71. Pardon? What fictional pieces do you refer to? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 07:45 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. He's claiming recently posted piece about Kerry's heavylifting on Syria is fiction, plus the other |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. BLM, you know I usually agree with you - but I am not certain that Clinton |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. That's why I said it sounds like someone from her camp is the source, but, likely on their own |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
22. Nice article. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. You're welcome!! |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
24. Hillary is easily the most impressive cabinet member. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. I think she will give Obama a run for his money in the 2012 primary |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I don't think so. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. It may be the only way |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Well............... |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Oh, come now. |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. What the hell are you talking about? |
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StevieM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
67. The voters could have ended the primary any time they wanted. They wanted to keep it going |
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sarah553807 (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
85. a "novelty" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. not a chance in the world that Hillary will run against her boss in the primary in 2012 |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. They just don't know how politics - and people - work. Stunning at times. nt |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Actually, it's the Clinton worshippers who don't know how politics and people work n/t |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. DC ain't Palm Springs. nt |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
79. Yeah, I know, I used to work in DC n/t |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. WTF? You're the one who made the post that everyone is reacting negatively to! None of the Hillary |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. I didn't see any response to your post stating that she would run in 2012. |
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quickesst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. If there is any doubt..... |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
60. its not naivete. Its hate/intense stupidity |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I think she knows better than to challenge an incumbent |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. No. Not going to happen. nt |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. Oh, good grief. |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
62. Hillary isn't a traitor to her party like Ted Kennedy.. she won't run against Pres Obama. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
64. There isn't a .000000000000000000000000001% chance Secretary Clinton will run in 2012. n/t |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
70. I don't think so. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. So this (briefly) degenerated into a Yay for Hillary into making it part of The Plan? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Stop being logical LisaM! |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. Thanks - the city needed the win more than I did. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
46. K&R! |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
52. I've been very pleased with Clinton as SoS |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
57. I did not support Hillary in 2008 |
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comsymp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. 2016? Doubt it |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Age is not necessarily an issue |
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comsymp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Age isn't necessarily an issue to an individual's abilty, but |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. None of the men you mentioned, other than Reagan., |
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comsymp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I'd like to agree, believe me, but |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. She did have most of the base. |
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comsymp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Maybe it's just our respective definitions of "have" |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Oh, I think the commitment is still there. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Sure....Iowa caucus was chock full of yuppies, AA, and youth. No working class or union folk, eh? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
82. You would have to believe this story is completely true in its attacks on Biden while exalting HRC. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Biden hasn't ruled out running in 2016 and he's got his foot in the door. n/t |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
58. Typical NY magazine writing - very gossipy - Their 2007/2008 stuff was awful in terms of accuracy |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
59. This is a great pic |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
63. I love Juanes!!! |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
72. Hillary is a wonderful SOS and we should all be proud of her. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-15-09 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
73. She was a good pick for this post. |
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