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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:42 PM Original message |
Signing a Pres Memorandum giving gay federal workers spousal benefits is a very good thing |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. you may now drink from the same water fountains but stay out of the pool ok? nt |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. And the economy isn't fixed and there is still no health care passed |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Maybe allowing gays and lesblians to serve in the armed forces would help us in the wars, eh? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 05:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
34. Rights delayed are rights denied |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good question - |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
3. What Tripe |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I think people should refuse the benefits then... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I'm being kind |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Take your marbles |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. A memo is like a Post It note |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. no it isn't - it is important |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. It sets an example for who? |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. other employers n/t |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 05:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Other employers are already far beyond this Mickey Mouse memo |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. A Presidential Memo will not generate a change in regulations |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. Why not an EO? Weak. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I agree |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. That's some fierce advocatin', all right! Imagine if he were a *chickenshit* advocate! |
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MikeE (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. Congress is already acting on this |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Probably. By the end of the year, many critics will be silent for sure. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Most don't care or don't think it's fast enough. Whatever...n/t |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 05:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
36. Dismissing equal civil rights with an "whatever" -- niiiiice |
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Crooked Moon (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
14. are soldiers considered federal workers? (n/t) |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Yes and no -- this certainly wouldn't cover them |
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Crooked Moon (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 06:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
39. of course. it was rhetorical. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
20. because the president cannot undo a law with an executive order |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. This is not exactly true |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. he has power and room to maneuver |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. you haven't been paying attention to the program |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
24. How good of a thing is it if the benefits only include moving expenses and cafeteria privileges? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Wait...you read the full memorandum already? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Every current news story says it can't include health or retirement benefits because of DOMA. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 05:21 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. You are the poster who posts things without knoing the facts -- as you yourself admit |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-16-09 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
25. Gotta ensure that teh gheys keep coughin' up teh cahs. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
29. Because this is a political move meant to mollify teh frustrated gays? |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
30. Signing a memorandum allowing all the "equal" rights, except for the ones prohibited by DOMA |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
31. Ooh I have an idea |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
33. It also isn't the same rights that married spouses get -- big fucking deal |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
38. It is a great thing, and I think the culture of the fed. govt differs |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-17-09 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
40. It's another small step forward. |
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