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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:45 AM
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Don't trust the WSJ/NBC poll
that they wers touting so heavily on Morning Joke today. According to this poll the President's overall approval rating is only 56%. The CBS/NYT poll also released today and other recent polls have it over 60%. http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

It is obvious to me that the WSJ weighted this poll to reflect badly on the President and try to influence lawmakers against reforming Healthcare.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:46 AM
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1. PEW poll coming out today will also show Obama's approval staying strong.
Digits will fluctuate. No big deal.
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Rob Gregory Browne Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:56 AM
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2. When I looked at Gallup yesterday
which, I believe, tends to skew conservative, his numbers were above 60%.

News organizations that rely on a single poll to make their headlines are doing a disservice to all of us. But their job is no longer disseminating news, but rather provoking and entertaining us in hopes that we'll buy a bar of soap.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:06 AM
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5. Gallup skews 'sloppy'. They have greater amplitudes of shifts in their results. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:21 AM
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9. "Buy a bar of soap" or
don't have faith in what the president is working on.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:56 AM
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3. Polls fluctuate daily, no big deal.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:05 AM
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4. 56 -60 are very close to the margin for error. Statistically not a big deal. nt
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:20 PM
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17. The spread is between 56 and 62 to 65 depending on the poll
and that is well outside the margin of error.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:08 AM
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6. While Morning Joke was busy touting the President's dropping poll numbers,
did they include the little nugget about the GOP having the lowest poll number EVER IN HISTORY! I doubt it, but I wouldn't know since I don't watch that "old white man's" show.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:35 AM
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13. Actually, Yes
Chuck Todd brought up that GOP numbers keep slipping despite other polling trends--they cannot take advantage of any changes in popularity. Todd speculated that because they don't have a health reform on the table, the GOP does not address the main concern of independents: how to pay the debt on a new health program.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:15 AM
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7. His numbers will go down eventually
The country is a mess and the people are inpatient

:shrug:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:19 AM
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8. But wait, I thought these polls were the gold standard
After all, that's the impression given around here when they were showing Bush sinking like a rock, and earlier when they were showing Obama in the stratosphere. But show a drop in Obama's numbers, all the sudden they're worthless?

Hmm, hypocrisy?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:22 AM
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10. Not at all
ALL the polls showed bush dropping like a rock. Here it's one poll that is being touted by the press at the exclusion of all the others. When people start complaining about methodology when all the polls start indicating something, then you'll have a point.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:24 AM
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11. Your post is full hypocricy..any chance
you get to hate on the president, there you are.

We're dealing in reality here..you might want to run along where they appreciate you making up shit out of thin air.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:29 AM
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12. Would it
be wrong of me to second your post?

Some here come and spew BS daily that the President has done NOTHING in the 5 months he's bene in office and honestly, it's getting old. I sometimes have to check and make sure that I am reading at Democratic Underdground and not some right wing hack site.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:11 PM
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15. I don't know how long
you've been here, but I'll Welcome you to DU, anyway.

It's getting real old, Baltoman..but there's a lot of good info here on what's really going on in a reality based government.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:54 AM
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14. Averaging can reduce effects of bias.
Obama's job approval is 59.6% according to the RCP average.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

By comparison, Obama's approval was 61% on 06/16/2009. On 06/17/2001 GWB was at 52%. Clinton was down to 38% on 06/21/1993. GHWB was 63% on 06/22/1989. Remember Saint Ronnie of Reagan's legendary popularity? 58% on 06/16/1981. Jimmy Carter was at 63% on 06/14/1977.

So the GOP's favorite whipping boy, Jimmy Carter, was tied with Poppy Bush as the most popular of these presidents at this moment in their first terms. Followed by Obama, Saint Ronnie, Junior, then Clinton in last place.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/popularity.php
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AlexanderProgressive Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:02 PM
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16. kick n/t
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