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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 04:48 PM
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Huffpo: Daschle 'still committed to the public plan.' Just doesn't think it can get thru Congress.
Not surprising, Daschle feels this way.
UPDATE: A spokesman for the former majority leader called the Huffington Post to insist that Daschle is "still committed to the public plan" and was not urging Obama to drop it from his proposal.

"He was saying that we shouldn't let any issue derail what would be health care reform," said Eileen McMenamin, Director of Communications at the Bipartisan Policy Center. "He definitely did not say there should be no public plan."

Daschle, said McMenamin, did believe that a public plan could be administered by the states. And his chief concern with Obama'a approach was not the policy basis but the politics of getting it through Congress.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/18/daschle-urges-obama-to-dr_n_217329.html
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 04:48 PM
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1. He still could use a spine. n/t
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 04:50 PM
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2. Yep!
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 04:53 PM
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3. What a worm, Dashcle is
His response via his spokesperson shows that he must be feeling the heat.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:08 PM
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8. Basically. In my eyes though, they are all waiting to sabotage Obama.
And his push for a public option.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:10 PM
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26. He's a Corporate Whore who PRETENDS to care for the people = Pink TuTu Democrat
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 04:56 PM
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4. "Committed"
He must have a HIGHLY NUANCED definition of the word committed.

I'm afraid that Nancy "the-public-option-may-not-end-up-being-something-called-the-public-option" Pelosi also has the same intensely circumspect and variegated form of commitment.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:06 PM
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6. What are you talking about? Did you see this interview?
Compared to Reid and everyone else in Congress she's the ONLY one standing beside the President about a public option!!!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/06/10/pelosi_no_bill_out_of_the_house_without_the_public_option.html
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:04 PM
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5. Congress is a bunch of traitors and Obama has a tough road dealt with a shady group.
The politics is economically based for the Congress.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:07 PM
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7. Our corrupted Congress is putting health industry profits first. Obama must lead.
And, we must stand with him.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:11 PM
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9. Obama IS leading & I've been standing with the Pub Opt. from the get go.
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 05:13 PM by vaberella
I'm not single payer. Single payer doesn't match my goals for health care and initiatives. And before any judgements are made---I happen to be on medicaid. I, however, do study health economics and what I would like doesn't match the single payer as defined by those in the US.

But I'm a steadfast supporter and believer in Universal health care.

I already Congress are on the take----Bayh admitted as much when you find out who his donors are and who had some dinner with a few weeks ago. Then add that to the other conservadems which includes Landrieu---and idiots like Lieberman I already our President is backed into a corner.
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sisters6 Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:16 PM
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13. Exactly HOW is Obama leading right now?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:44 PM
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19. If you don't think it's leading then there's nothing more to say.
I've seen way too many disingenuous posts in regards to this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/15/obama-ama-spee...

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/11/politics/politi...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvFqTVal_f0

Maybe you should read this site as well:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/health_care/

And you should be kept up to date on what they're doing...

http://www.healthreform.gov/

And he's going to do more. What you all want to do is shout from the rooftops but your screaming crap really. He's going out there and building support and having us push congress to get these idiots to do their job and create a decent bill with a viable public option. You choose to ignore all that because you just want to complain.

So complain away.
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sisters6 Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:05 PM
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28. I know the website. Lots of rhetoric.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:12 PM
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10. That's Daschle's idea of commitment.
"Eh, there are like Republicans and stuff. Maybe the states can do it."
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:13 PM
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11. He's like Reid. n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:26 PM
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16. Ahh- the DLC- they put the "we" in "we don't have the votes." n/t
n/t
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sisters6 Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:14 PM
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12. What a bunch of defeatists!! Ist Obama would not even consider
single payer, which the congress took as a cue, now this. We are being conned!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:47 PM
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20. Get a clue!! Single payer would never make pass congress so he pushed what he pushed as a CANDIDATE.
He promised he'd advocate for a Public Option and that's what he's doing. So what are you talking about. Secondly there are a few Dems who are advocates for single payer who actually are willing to compromise. Single payer normally doesn't give room for compromise---do you know what it means---complete elimination of the private market. Obama never campaigned on that.

wait, wait...I see now. Because he's not advocating single payer and didn't as even a candidate in the primaries he's not leading?...well if that's the thought process (which is just an inference) then most definitely you'll be complaining to a blank wall.
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sisters6 Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:03 PM
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27. He was and is NOT thinking outside the box of pleasing the insurance
industries and congress is following him. Who says that if perhaps he had started at a higher bargaining position--where would we be now? He started with a low bar and it is deteriorating by the hour.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:20 PM
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14. OMG -- et tu Tom? ANOTHER weasel?
These guys are progressive as long as they don't have to actually FIGHT for something! At least Pelosi has gumption.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:21 PM
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15. Is this the dry powder, chess or rope-a-dope strategy?
I tend to get our excuses-er, I mean "strategies" mixed up.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:48 PM
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21. What strategy---this is all about Daschle? n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:00 PM
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23. I thought Daschle had a grand excuse-er I mean "strategy."
I'm just trying to figure out which one it is.

"What strategy" indeed. I'm not sure Daschle is capable of any strategy that does not involve giving conservatives what they want.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:09 PM
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25. Exactly. n/t
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:33 PM
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17. This is a trial balloon on behalf
of Mr. Dashle's insurance industry benefactors. He's throwing this out there, IMO, to see if this wedge (between people who want the public plan and others who might be willing to take any "reform") might work. I even detected in the Kennedy plan a certain desire to get something passed at any cost. We can't allow politics as usual in this case. We cannot accept less than a public plan just so some politicians can say in their 2010 campaign that "I helped pass health care reform." We need to loudly support Dr. Dean and others and accept nothing that does not include a viable public plan.
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DeltaLitProf Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:40 PM
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18. Can you imagine Mississippi's health care plan?
Rub some dirt on it and get back to work.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 08:59 AM
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31. Yeah. "Could be administered by the states"?
Daschle is jerking us around.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:53 PM
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22. So showing the other players your hand is a brilliant move
if you're a spineless jellyfish who can't play poker or rope-a-dope. I really like Daschle, but that man needs a spine transplant or, better yet, some tips from President Obama on how play and beat your opponents. I'm pretty sure giving your game away wouldn't be one of his tips.

Tom, your wimpiness disgusts me. Thankfully, I believe Obama (and Rahm) is still playing the game and we know patient we must be when Obama is in working his opponents.

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:05 PM
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24. Typical Daschle Democrat. It might be too hard. Let's just cave.
No Bill at all will be better than a bad bill.

Public Option a must.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:08 PM
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29. That seems to be the message from Daschle.
I strongly reject that message.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:12 PM
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30. A public plan as part of the cure better get through Congress. If Obama wants to be re-elected. nt
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 09:01 AM
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32. President Obama should be
pushing it through Congress.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 09:37 AM
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33. Good thing Daschle wasn't a member of the Continental Congress
"Yeah, I'd really like independence - but I don't think the votes are there"
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 09:41 AM
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34. Then work to get it thru Congress you fucking wuss.
These "Democrats" are driving me nuts!!!!
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