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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:21 PM
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Extremely good things from Obama's regulatory reform plan: consumer protection and no more OTS

Summary Box: Banks seek to derail consumer agency

By The Associated Press The Associated Press – 51 mins ago
THE PROPOSAL: As part of sweeping efforts to overhaul the financial system, the Obama administration wants to create a new agency to protect consumers from risky or deceptive products.

THE DETAILS: The Consumer Financial Protection Agency, if approved by Congress, would have broad authority to protect consumers of credit, savings and other consumer financial products and services. It would take away some power from other agencies, most notably the Federal Reserve.

THE OBSTACLE: The banking industry, fearing more regulation that could cut into profits, has vowed to oppose the plan and is pressuring lawmakers to water down the agency's authority.


The regulatory overhaul would eliminate only one agency, the Office of Thrift Supervision, generally considered a weak link among current banking regulators. The beleaguered OTS oversaw the American International Group, whose business insuring exotic securities blew up last fall, prompting a $182 billion federal bailout. OTS also oversaw other high-profile blowups like Countrywide Financial Corp., IndyMac Bank and Washington Mutual Inc.

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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:25 PM
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1. I don't know how long I can keep feeling good about rearranging the deck chairs
Kudos to Obama I guess. :shrug:

Unfortunately, almost no politician in our political system is willing to accept the fact that we have root problems with our plunder capitalist system that has been allowed to take hold over three decades. Thirty years of plunder exploitation, much of it hard written into law is not going to be undone by slapping some "oversight" back on top.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:39 PM
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3. "Rearranging deck chairs" doesn't really apply
The problem is that people seem to believe that those who have a hand in causing the problem are going to change. One could replace them all (more like them will take their place) and turn the system on its head, and it wouldn't solve a thing. Here is the root problem: There are laws and oversight. One can write the strictest regulations possible and put the appropriate oversight in place, but none of it will matter if there is no enforcement or accountability. We'll have to see what laws are passed and what mechanisms are put in place to ensure that these are enforceable.



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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:43 PM
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4. That is a very good point. Just as with Bernie Madoff there were a ton of different laws
on the books and ways to stop him it is just that no one enforced them.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:52 PM
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5. It certainly does apply.
Oversight and matching enforcement is not the root problem. The root problem is the system itself. Our Friedman-esque free-market corporate capitalist system is faulty in principle, and it leads to these problems of lack of oversight and/or enforcement due to the natural inclination toward corruption by the dominating forces of the financial elite.

Unfortunately, I don't believe plunder capitalism is a sustainable system in the long term. It consumes more than it can sustain, and ultimately it collapses under its own weight. So creating better "enforcement" of new "oversight" might possibly delay the end, but it fix what is fundamentally broken.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:55 PM
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6. "natural inclination toward corruption by the dominating forces of the financial elite"
Right, that's not a problem in any other system.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:49 PM
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7. Of course its a problem. That's not an excuse for turning a blind eye.
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 07:56 PM by Political Heretic
It is more of problem in this system, where it is out of any sort of control. If you're arguing that this is the best of all possible systems, then I respectfully disagree with you.

EDIT - because I'm about to be away from the computer for a while, I'll go ahead and say that I would suggest that a system of greater public control of financial markets, with a nationalized fed and government intervention gets me closer to the kind of society that I desire. A system where markets are regulated, perhaps not completely but where the "free" market mystique is not a part of the political culture.

The trouble is, a more socialist structure seems to work mostly in smaller States - where places like Sweden or certain other countries in Europe beat the United States on key indicators that I believe are most important (overall poverty rates, child poverty, elderly poverty, infant mortality, income disparity, worker compensation and benefits, health care). In a place as big as the US, I don't think anyone can predict how an identical system would function.

Still, I believe that socialist democratic political structure is preferable to what we have in the United States.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 06:28 PM
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2. Of course the banks would be working to derail perhaps the best thing
to come out of Obama's regulatory plans. They want to make the proposed new agency impotent before it starts like the hopefully soon outgoing OTS. I hope Obama stands firm on this and we need to make sure that we support the President in putting this agency forward and making sure it has some teeth and does it's job.
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