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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 10:25 AM Original message |
Don't the Blue Dogs realize that if they undermine Obama they will have no coattails next time? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. As much as Obama realizes without Blue Dogs we Dems would not control the House. n/t |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. For which we see Obama COMPROMISING with the blue dog bastards, |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Since they don't vote Dem ANYWAY we still don't have control. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Last I heard Nancy Pelosi (D - CA) was still Speaker of the House and we Dems controlled committees. |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. What good is this so-called "control" if you can't use it for anything? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. "important legislation" passed without some support of opposition runs the risk of being repealed |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. I assume you're using "control" euphemistically. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. As a minimum, I use control to mean who controls what bills come before each committee and the House |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Thank you for the explanation, jody. You are certainly correct about the committees and |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Agree, IMO corporatist get their bills passed regardless of the party in power. n/t |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. So true. |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. I don't understand these people. Yeah they live in so called "red districts". But |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
5. The typical Blue Dog... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. You and I share the same opinion all astute political analysts hold. n/t |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Just stating the facts. n/t |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Some people's egos exceed their sense of propriety. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Agree with that but sometimes arrogance combined with ignorance can be fatal. n/t |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Then how on Earth are you still alive? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Because I'm neither, are you? n/t |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Just because a district voted for McCain doesn't mean there is no coattail effect |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Good point, but Obama can also have campaign money yoinked. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Do you have stats showing how much DCCC or DSCC money went to Blue Dogs? n/t |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. Lets not pretend Obama is the great progressive standard bearer |
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DatManFromNawlins (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. Not as stupid as DUers who think they should jump when Obama says so |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Exactly, it's "constituents & re-election" versus "party & de-election". n/t |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
18. Coattails, shmoattails, they'll all be millionare lobbyists with congressional floor priveleges. |
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